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What's the status of embed?

         

musicales

10:59 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been looking at the best way of offering midi samples and frankly embeding it can look very very tidy and nice. I have a vague feeling it's been de-moted or whatever happens like <font> tags - are we supposed to use embed or not?

Paul in South Africa

11:16 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have a look at this thread [webmasterworld.com].

musicales

11:41 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thanks paul - that makes things even more unclear! Am I right in thinking that means embed will stop altogether working in some future version of IE. If so that's the end of flash isn't it?

Paul in South Africa

11:56 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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MS will appeal the judgement so another 18 months or more will probably go by before anything concrete is decided. I guess that it will be business as usual until then.

rcjordan

11:57 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>If so that's the end of flash isn't it?

That's the way I interpret it. I certainly wouldn't start a large project dependent upon flash until this shakes out.

musicales

12:24 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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blimey - that's VERY big news.

MonkeeSage

12:28 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Flash works just as well in the non-deprecated <object> element, so I doubt it will be the end of Flash. Just means that Flash sites currently using <embed> will evenetually need to be reworked, just like sites using <font> and <strike> or <del> will eventually need to be.

Jordan

musicales

12:54 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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MonkeeSage - do you know if you can use <object> for midi files? And how cross-browser is <object>?
Thanks

MonkeeSage

2:20 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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musicales:

I would imagine so for midi files, probably something to the effect of:

<object data="somefile.mid" type="application/x-midi">
</object>

AFAIK, it is supported in all newer browsers, probably generation 3 and up, but I'm not certain.

Here is the W3C rec for <object> elements:
[w3.org...]

Jordan