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$19 for 5000 pages yearly.
$79 for business
I wish to know will install my own search script,
I can then save $19/$79 every year?
Please let me know other factors i have to consider,
other than the $19/$79 yearly fee.
I have no idea of how the "install my own" solution works.
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First, I encourage you to read this thread:
Site Search, how to make it a total asset [webmasterworld.com]
Running your own site search is a very challenging job - and it takes a lot of server resources. You may have noticed that our own site search here is far from the ideal.
Doing a web search on "site search script" and related phrases will turn up some resources you can use. A lot depends on what kind of server your site is on and what server side scripting languages are available to you.
But you should know this, it's not a simple job to do well. I don't know how much you feel your time is worth, but you may easily find it taking up more of your time than makes sense.
All you need is at : [xav.com...]
A great product and can easily handle thousands of pages.
There are other hosted site-searches, so perhaps you should consider an alternative if you are not satisfied with freefind. I do recommend atomz.com but i don't know what price range it will be for you.
You have to consider the cost of your own time, as this is what you will be spending if you run your own. How many hours of your own labour during a year does it take to reach $79 - i think this is the important question and i also think that you will quicly be spending this amount of hours and even more.
Anyway, if you have already decided to run your own, xavatoria (isn't that the name or was it once?) has a good reputation.
But Freefind offer more plans options and therefore it is a lot cheaper to me compare to Atomz.
Therefore I selected freefind.
I plan to set up the serach function to search my group of sites that are growing to reach 5000+ pages soon.
Yes, i value my time a lot.
But how much time i need for diy solution?
i just think i need the time to learn to install & configurate .
And there's all, it it true?
Do you mean i have to spend time day to day on going to maintain my site search function too, i have no idea on what works i need to do on going after set up.
And when i do such works/maintenance, can i do other things at the same time?
$79 - just a few hours to me to earn that.
Atomz should be much more than this i think.
Besides the time/labor factor, do the diy solutions
offer detailed visitors search statistics like Atomz offer?
fast search response time?
One of the greatest values I've found in a site search is a report on what terms were searched for. You certainly want to make sure that you actually have pages returned if you see a particular search on a regular basis, even if at a low level.
And this points to one of the liabilities. If you offer a site search, many visitors will go right to your search function rather than explore the site. And if the results of their search are poor - then you've lost them. So a poorly done site search can actually chase away visitors. In my opinion, a site is better off to have NO search function than to use a poorly done version.
Of all the solutions I've tried, the one that has worked best so far is an outsourced solution that actually allows me to tweak and fine-tune the algorithm. Also, the third party solution will spider at least once a day, which is very helpful. Running an in-house site search can mean actually indexing a site on a frequent basis, and that can be one of the resource drains I was talking about.
I really don't know. It all depends on how difficult the setup is and how easy you learn the stuff required. Kyr01 says it's pretty easy, but perhaps he is very good at the technical stuff - if he's just as good as you, i guess it's just as easy for you. I don't know if "pretty easy" means an hour or a day, really.
>> spend time day to day on going to maintain my site search function too
I don't think you will have to spend time on it each and every day. I hope you can just do the setup and config and then you are running. Untill you change something on your sites and then have to change something on the search as well.
>> that's all? && detailed visitor information? && response time?
Kyr01 and Visit_Thailand will have to answer this, as i don't know, sorry about that.
Time needed every day:
Except for indexing every time your content change, there is very little effort involved (actually nothing, just checking stats, maybe)
Xav has a page with reports about searches. It is not very different from what you get at Freefind, just a little more information (All searches, Single words, Full strings, Time of the Day, Day of the week, Average number of results and this kind of stuff).
draining my PC resource or my hosting company server's resource?
does it mean you will normally not go for daily re-index if you are using diy solution, even you have made some additions to your site content, becasue of resource-draining?
Full strings means a "saerch word phase"?