Annoying lines around frames in Netscape 4.7

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Annoying lines around frames in Netscape 4.7

can't get rid of lines around frames

mckcd

5:43 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Help I can't get rid of lines in Netscape 4.
Is it possible? :(

[edited by: mckcd at 5:52 pm (utc) on April 9, 2003]

Alternative Future

5:50 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello and Welcome to WebMasterWorld mckcd,

You might want to remove your url before the MOD's do ;)

It's been a while since i worked with frames but i think you require to also include marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" which i see you have done (drat! i should really just go to bed) will have another look 8-)

HTH,

-gs

mckcd

5:55 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Already used it. Doesn't help
marginheight="0" and marginwidth="0" ;)

Alternative Future

6:00 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Have you tried removing all the attributes from the frameset except for the rows="blah, blah" and putting the frameborder="no" border="0" framespacing="0" into the frame element?

-gs

mckcd

6:03 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Will try...

NADA!

Problem in the target pages, maybe?

DrDoc

8:19 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

try frameborder="0" instead of "no"

universalis

8:27 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Here's a basic outline of a frameset document without spaces or borders:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Your title here</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<frameset cols="15%,*" [B]frameborder="0" border="0" framespacing="0"[/B]>
 <frame name="menu" target="main" src="sidebar.html">
 <frame name="main" src="main.html">
 <noframes>
 (noframes stuff here)
 </noframes>
</frameset>
</html>

Hope this helps!

mckcd

9:36 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Changing frameborder="no" to frameborder="0" makes no difference either.
May have to consider browser detection. :(
Which is the whole reason I used frames instead of I frame anyway.
I'm getting only 2% Netscape 4 visitors though.

ShawnR

12:50 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Doesn't sound like a difficult problem. I suggest you post some cut-down snippets of your frameset file and your target file, and I'm sure someone will be able to help.

Shawn

DrDoc

12:50 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

In each <frameset>:

frameborder="0" framespacing="0" border="0"

In each <frame>:

frameborder="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"

Those are all necessary to create borderless frames. Without those attributes some browsers will misbehave. Do that, and you'll see it works :)

mckcd

1:37 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

as Shawn suggested

<html>

<head>

</head>

<noframes>
<body>
This page requires a frames enabled browser.
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</frameset>

</html>

_____________________________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________________________

</TABLE>
</DIV>

______________________________________________________________________________

</body>

tedster

2:50 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

What you're seeing in NN4 may be a sliver of default background color, showing through where the frames join - rather than a true frameborder which looks 3-D.

ShawnR

2:50 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't see any problem with the frameset. I think the problem is with

<body bgcolor="#COCOCO" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">

topmargin and leftmargin are IE specific and more modern, so NN4 ignores them. You have specified bgcolor="#COCOCO", but not specified a background colour for the table cells. So the table cells will be white, and the background will be #COCOCO, giving the impression you see. To see what I mean open up the body file in NN, and see what it looks like without the frame context.

One other comment:

<noframes>
<body>
This page requires a frames enabled browser.
</body>
</noframes>

is pretty rude to those few visitors ... and it is not very search-engine friendly. How about just sticking a menu or site map there?

Shawn

mckcd

3:27 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all the help!