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Awaiting IE 7

What will it bring?

         

DrDoc

5:03 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We're awaiting the release of IE 7 any day now. There are lots of speculations about what it will bring, which bugs have been fixed, which bugs are still there, and which new bug have been invented.

What do you think?
What's one of your favorite features you hope to see in IE 7?
What's one of the most annoying bugs you hope to see fixed?

To get started, how about if it will start rendering

[3]border: 1px dotted black;[/3]
as dotted, and not dashed.

And, how about that

[3]position: fixed;[/3]
will be implemented correctly.

OntheEdge

5:06 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How about real popup control...and an ActiveX toggle.

tedster

5:27 pm on Mar 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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1. I'd settle for very few new features but a big usability makeover for that inscrutable Internet Tools laundry list and the security/privacy features.

2. I would like to see more standards support and less (or NO) attention on proprietary new stuff.

These wishes don't feel like something that the MS corporate culture would create -- this kind of direction would surprise me very much.

Come on Redmond, please surprise me.

ricfink

12:30 am on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fixed positioning is high on my list.

In line with that, I just hope they continue to move as close to a full CSS2 implementation as possible.

I would also like to see an option for saving forms along with the user-entered data.

My favorite "bug" is the way that IE 6, in strict mode, handles the body element as opposed to the html (documentElement) when the contents of the body element does not fill the entire viewport. I find it hard to even explain the strange things it does.

Other than that, I'm pretty well satisfied with IE. For writing scripted pages, it's the standard-bearer, that's for sure. Even when I code wrong, it seems to sense what it is I'm trying to do.

I hope they keep the interface simple, as before. And I hope they don't succumb to implementing anything trivial just because it's part of a W3C standard somewhere. (Like adding a menu item for Alternate Style Sheets as per the HTML 4 recommendation.)
No multiple document interface, either. Let the power users move to another browser if they need more, I've got enough support problems as is.

Reno

12:32 am on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd be happy to see IE 7 for Wintel to be like IE 5.1.6 for Mac -- collapsible side bar, easy text viewing control, a more elegant interface, etc.

And I definitely agree with OnTheEdge -- a button to block unrequested popup windows would make the browsing experience that much better for most people. I myself use a popup blocker called "Free Surfer", and while it has been tremendously helpful, that sort of add on program is not necessarily going to be installed by the average person. So I'd say to MS...... please build it in!

gph

2:27 am on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ricfink, if I understand you correctly, unlike other browsers IE needs this in strict mode:

win_h = document.documentElement.clientHeight

msr986

2:36 am on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's been highly rumored that there would NOT be an IE7. I've been searching all over the place for an indication that IE7 will actually be released. Anyone know something I don't? Does anyone have any tangible information?

gph

2:53 am on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry DrDoc, I posted to the thread without answering your questions.

1/ Besides more standards support I'd like to see it do all of things I like about Mozilla. Popup killer, Tab browsing, mouse gesters and speed.

2/ Image rendering issues

<edit>

Specifically things like this


<html>
<title></title>
<body>
<table>
<tr>
<td>
<img src="an_image.jpg" alt="alt info" width="50" height="50" id="img-1">
<script type='text/javascript'>
alert('From within a table:\nHeight = '+document.images['img-1'].height+'\nWidth = '+
document.images['img-1'].width+'\nAlt = '+
document.images['img-1'].alt+'\nSource = '+
document.images['img-1'].src)
</script>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<script type='text/javascript'>
alert('From outside of a table:\nHeight = '+document.images['img-1'].height+'\nWidth = '+
document.images['img-1'].width+'\nAlt = '+
document.images['img-1'].alt+'\nSource = '+
document.images['img-1'].src)
</script>
</body>
</html>

</edit>

RonPK

4:48 pm on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I read somewhere (http://www.ciol.com/content/opinion/freeloader/102102801.asp) that 7 will only be available for XP, and as a stand-alone program.

What I'd like:
* option to block onload-popups
* tabbed browsing
* better support for CSS2
* no image toolbar
* support for <blink> ;-)

edit: added URL

Hester

11:14 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If IE7 is only for XP then all the 98 and 95 users won't be able to upgrade. So making a site that works only in IE7 (using position:fixed for instance) will be a bad idea. Plus it takes years for users to upgrade. Some people are still using IE4!

I hope they fix the missing graphics and styles bug. It's hit me again today. Suddenly pages are without images and CSS! Nothing I can do can restore them. I've switched over to Mozilla instead.

edit_g

11:26 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yup - the position: fixed problem will be with us for a good while yet.

seindal

1:57 pm on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd like MS not to do a thing. Leave innovation to alternative browsers so they can gain a larger market share and we can have some competition back into the marketplace. That is what we need, much more than an IE7 that will just cement MS stranglehold on the area.

René.

Csaba

11:15 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am (yea, right) hoping that Microsoft fixes their in/dependent thread cookie flaw

Csaba Gabor

Allen

1:28 pm on Mar 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd like M$ to fold :P

What will the next version of IE bring?
Instability, crashes and security flaws galore until a few patches after SP1 :)

Allen

RZaakir

1:58 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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1. Another vote for position:fixed - NON background elements please!
2. Tabbed browsing (we know you have it MS, it's all over Visual Studio.NET)
3. Native PNG Alpha Channel transparency
4. Give me a chance to keep all of these #$!@ programs from putting crap on my toolbar (ie Yahoo Messenger, Real, MSN Messenger, Front Page).
5. Support for :hover and :focus on non <a> elements.

There is probably more but all I really want is for my valid XHTML home page to render properly in IE. Is that too much to ask?

Hester

2:26 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Support for colspan="0".

Pop-up window control.

Pause/Resume downloads.

Enable DOCTYPE's to be recognised on lines other than the first.

Support for <BLINK>. Well why not? I still see it used today.

Skins.

The XP browser icons across *all* platforms.

Support for media="projection"?

100% CSS2 support.

Support for <abbr>.

More fonts. (So we can go beyond Verdana etc safe in the knowledge all IE7 users have them.)

Everything else that makes Opera and Mozilla so cool. :)