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5:23 am on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've read many of the comments and replies on the Forum; and, I must admit, I am highly impressed by the knowledge many of you have in designing sites.

I am very new using a PC and have a lot of catching up do to. I have a question to ask, although I'm afraid to ask for fear of sounding like the village idiot, but here goes:

Using EditPad Lite, I would like to make changes and corrections. How do I bring the document back up, make these changes, and make sure NEW changes are recorded?? I'm using Windows 98.

ANY and ALL replies will be greatly appreciated.

5:38 am on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi help4me, welcome to webmaster world

I assume, by the way you write this, is that you have problems with the software updating your saved work?

If this is the case.....I know other software (like microsoft frontpage) will open many non .htm files in the windows /temp folder, thus when you save it, you actually aren't overwriting your dud copy, you are saving it somewhere else

I think Im getting the wrong end of hte stick here but....

1>How do I bring the document back up

go to file > open (dont use the software, I assume this is where you will go)

2> make changes

do it!

3> make sure the changes are recorded

always go to "save as" and save exactly where you want the file to be saved......be it on your webserver or your local copy of your websites


5:40 am on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Help4Me and Welcome to WebmasterWorld.

Phew, such a simple question but the answer could take days.

Lets start with the basics.

First, is your site only local on your PC or is it uploaded to a Host and therefor live on the Net? If the former, then saving your changed page should be enough. However, if your site is on a host then you need to upload the changed page to you host for it to take effect.

For that you need an FTP program.

Also, if you are writing sites then you reall should be running a web server on your PC such as Personal Web Server (PWS) which comes with Windows, or perhaps Apache which is available for free.

You might want to wander around the Glossary (see the link at the top) to get a feel for the terms used and what each program does. That should give you a good background to then start tackling more complex things.

Hope this helps


5:44 am on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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And here's a bit of general advice for any work on a PC, since you're new to it all:

Make backups all the time! I mean at least a couple of times a day. Save to floppy, zip, whatever you can. When (not if but when) your PC spits the dummy you can restore from backup and only lose a couple of hours work (which is fresh in your mind and therefore quick to redo).
5:54 am on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Help4me,

One of the very neat things about this community is that its members range from the dyed-in-the-wool web-veterans to those who are just starting out. :)

Don't be afraid to ask questions. "C'mon in, the water's fine." :)

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Hello help4me, welcome to WebmasterWorld!

Any text editor can edit and save .html or .htm files, browsers recognize both as HTML documents and will render the code accordingly.

If you are working with existing HTML files, simply open the file using your text editor. To save changes to existing HTML files, just "save" the document... ctrl+s is a typical "hot keystroke" that will save most documents in Windows programs.

If you are creating a NEW html document, you will be asked to provide a name for your file. All that is required is to choosa a name (use a logical maming convention, it will make things easier as your site grows) and add the .html or .htm extention, e.g. index.htm, summer_photos_2001.html. Again, it really does not matter which file extention you choose, but for consistancy purposes, stick with one or the other.

After you have made your changes, or created a new page, you can "double-click" the new Windows Eplorer, or navigate to it directly form your browser of choice: File/Open, etc.

Your new page will be displayed and you will see your recent changes or additions.

I hope this helped.
Best of luck,
- papabaer

6:27 pm on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)


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I love this forum. When I posted my first question, not sure I was in the right forum or whatever, I was surprised how many responses began with "Welcome to Webmaster World". I got hooked and have been reading constantly since them April 25...

Anyway, Welcome to Webmaster World help4me. If your problem is uploading your changed files and you are new to using a PC, you may find it useful to have an editor that has FTP integrated. If that's true, says so and I'm sure we can suggest some free editors for you.




8:34 pm on May 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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More advice:
Allaire HomeSite is a killer app html editor. The built in help is one of the things that stand out.

Do not underestimate the value of static html pages. Many sites use php and dynamic content for no good reason. You can do pretty well using static pages and cheap web hotels. Of course, if you want interactivity and high volume you need a dynamic engine. In that case, I recommend using Java servlets, IBM VisualAge for development (free up to 750 classes), and Apache/Tomcat for production.

2:42 am on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well, I FINALLY completed the task.

I want to thank each of you for the kind, helpful and friendly replies. Also, I would like to thank you for welcoming me to the forum.

I agree with ergophobe, "I love this forum."


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