Public IE7 Beta for Summer

[pmkpmk]

we’re looking forward to the feedback when we release the first beta of IE7 this summer. Stay tuned for more details as we get closer to beta.

[blogs.msdn.com...]

[ergophobe]

2by4 Re - serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml.

Just curious, do you sniff for IE and serve up as text/html to them, or do you just close out IE users (I've seen some true XHTML sites that do) or use some other method? Will that method work if IE7 processes XHTML?

[MatthewHSE]

Re ie css hacks. The only one I use commercially is * html, plus ie conditionals sometimes in a very limited way.

I sure hope that

* html

hack still works in IE7. It's saved my neck a few times. Some have speculated that, in an effort to "fix" IE, Microsoft will change things so these old hacks no longer work. Of course this would be fine if they'd support standards properly; however, from what I've read so far, they're more interested in updating the interface than the rendering engine.

I only have Windows 2000, and no plans whatsoever to "upgrade" to XP. How long do we give it before IE7 is hacked to work on w2k? ;)

[2by4]

"Just curious, do you sniff for IE and serve up as text/html to them"

No, I test the accept header.

"or do you just close out IE users (I've seen some true XHTML sites that do)"

Don't give me any ideas, LOL... easy to do: I'm sorry, but your browser is too old to view this site, please update your browser to a more modern one... Maybe I'll make a section like that though, I wouldn't mind.

"Will that method work if IE7 processes XHTML?"

Yes, no problem, it's checking for xhtml support, not the browser.

Encyclo, like you, I've pretty much moved all commercial stuff back to HTML 4, for the reasons you and tedster mention. I'd say I'm doing 70% 4.01, 30% XHTML currently, on average. This was a special case however, off topic here to explain it, suffice it to say that the original developer was incompetent, which is ok, but he also delivered the worst html I have ever seen, saying that standards don't matter, and are out of date. Which is ok if you know what you're doing, not if you don't. I had a motivation to deliver this to that standard, zero errors, as sort of the classic middle finger salute to him.

Re tables, again, bringing the thread back on topic, which it actually still is, since it's IE that doesn't support xhtml, it's also IE that didn't implement the css 2 stuff that would have allowed table cell likek behavior with divs, that would have ended the need to go back to tables for layouts, which is why IE bugs me so much.

[ergophobe]

No, I test the accept header.

Ahh.. Obviously!