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But I've gotten about 1,000 more hits from Teoma than from Google since last month; and Teoma is still in getting pages at the rate of 5-6 per minute.
Anyone else had similar experience?
Peter
This does not surprise me. The competition is heating up and they need to keep increasing the size and freshness of the index or be left behind.
I do get > 1000 hits from google but 0 hits from teoma so I am really doubt if people use Teoma. :(
Gonna be fun when those get in the index. Ask Jeeves may be my new best friend.
Peter
I definetly can concur that their is more aggressive spidering, whether that means that they plan to seriously increase the size of the DB, i don't know, as they have always suggested that their database is the size it is because of the spam filtering technique's that they utilise to capture the web.
Teoma hasn't been ravaging my pages like the googlebot has, but then again Google likes to go really really deep :D
I rank in top 10 for many good keywords in both teoma and google. But google tend to send a lot of visitors while teoma and ask, send 0.
EliteWeb is right. I tell tech savvy folks about Teoma and untech savvy people about Ask.
Of the two, most of my traffic comes from Ask. On in the range of 5 - 7%. All picked up by spidering.
I've been getting hit pretty hard these past couple of days by the above, keeping a pretty sustained 110 pages/min ..
If it's really Teoma then I guess I don't mind, though IMHO a bit rude of them to fake as Mozilla :( .. if it's not I wanna get rid! ..
IP is 65.214.36.114
Visitors coming from them are also up, in 5th place, beating out AltaVista.
Craig
Teoma's *still* in there, crawling at around 10-20 pages/minute, and has so far got around 35,000 pages from me (and going strong).
Anyone have ideas on when I can expect to see these results in the Ask/Teoma SERPS?
Peter
One thing I'm having a problem with: I am able to count the hits, but I can't resolve the keywords the visitors are coming in with, which makes it hard to analyze if it's quality traffic or random fluff.
Anybody else experiencing this?
If only more people would use it, I might see more traffic. As it is, I only get a couple referrals a week from them.
Up to 90,000 pages...and crawling at around 3-5 pages per second. Wow.
Very anxious to see how this bodes once results are in Teoma's index.
Peter
The annoying thing is that the url might incriminate me (cough) well, in a matter of speaking anyway, and I'd love to be able to ask "Jeeves" to take the listing out -- mais non, I'd have to pay them or something. How aggravating.
The weirdest thing is that I only know of one or two links ever to that old, old site of mine, whereas my current one is linked to from a lot of places (but has only been up for 6-7 mo.s), including DMOZ.
I guess when they say Teoma is slow, they mean it.
please, please find my new site this crawl!
> Is a user agent of "Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; Ask Jeeves/Teoma)" legitimate for Teoma?
Yes, that is legitimate if it's coming from one of their IP addresses.
Jim
Can any of you track what the keywords your visitors from Teoma/Ask are using?
Come on, don't be shy now.
At best it is partial tracking. I just use a freebie Sitemeter tracker. Most of the strings are too long but I can click back and find the shorter phrases. It is easier with Teoma than Ask, but most of the traffic is from Ask.
It is easier to see the referrals from the metasearch partners like Dogpile and Mamma.
Teoma is banging away at my site, too. Currently at about 10-12 pages per minute.
Paul Gardi gave me the impression that they are serious about expanding their database and moving toward fresher and fresher results.
Hey matinibuster, you know, Paul was quite low key at PubCon but apparently he was able to get some good info out to a lot of small groups. To us he also emphasized the fresh results (which explains the aggressive spidering) and went on to say that the 'related searches' on Jeeves and 'refine' option on Temoa were getting a lot of use.
Good to see that they aren't sitting back, always need an alternative to big G. Now let alltheweb get the word out and we might have some pretty good competition.
Jim
I can just about work out what the search queries are by working backwards. I know where most of the queries come from so if I cross reference the times of the hits from Ask with what's left I can see what most of them are.
Quicker and easier to just guess! :-)
Crawled Pages this month: 145,909
Pages per second: 5
I think Paul (and Teoma's press release) was serious about expanding Teoma's database. So far Teoma's got 15 times the pages that Google did for my site.
Peter
In the above thread, started yesterday, i've noticed changes in the serps, some quite profound, though not all, drop any changes you see into that thread. So that we can start to build up a picture of What Paul meant and what Teoma's new algo is doing or how its changing!
Cheers
Caine
...Paul was quite low key at PubCon...
I must have been in a different room :)
I don't get why they are pushing teoma and not ask. In pubcon I don't think he mentioned ask jeeves more than once or twice.
Ask seems to already have a loyal following - teoma [proper] probably gets more hits from this board than anywhere else.
Teoma is hard to spread by word of mouth - as its name is weird.
Don't get me wrong - I think ask jeeves is stupid, and teoma a much better search engine (yes I know ask is powered by teoma - I mean from a semi-user point of reference).
Ask could be your one stop shop for internet searches, but instead they are going with "teoma". I know internet names are hard to find, but I don't like it....
teoma's name working against itself, never looked at that angle before, interesting!
I think the reasoning behind Paul's lack of mentioning of AJ, is that as you mentioned Teoma is the algo, and AJ is a dependant of it, hence certianly for my own presence it was teoma i was interested in hearing about, and not AJ.
I was not at PubCon, but it seems to me it would be because they are aiming Teoma at webmasters and Ask at the general public. Since Pubcon was filled with webmasters, SEO's and the like, all of whom know Teoma feeds Ask, he just cut to the chase and talked about T.
If he was at a conference aimed at the general public I bet he would hardly mention Teoma it would all be about Ask.
