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Denmark - Danmark
Fact sheet [odci.gov]
Domain(s): dk
Online population: 2,6 million (1Q/2001)
Native language(s): Danish, Faroese, Greenlandic, (small German minority)
Understanding of English: Very high
Hosts in domain: 334.000 (April 2001)
Pages in language: 2.6 million (April 2001, all domains)
Pages in domain: 4.1 million (April 2001, all languages)
Local presence required for domain registration: Yes
Multiple domains allowed: Yes
Professional help: See bottom of page
Known general search engines:
Albot [albot.dk]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: 250.000 unique visitors/month Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: Own
Meta description used in search replies: No! First 250-300 user viewable characters incl. ALT.Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: Yes. Very important. Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Big on link popularity. Important to have good ALT-description for images since they may be shown in search results. Default SE for TV2 home page and used by Sonofon, one of Denmark's biggest GMS providers. New and still unknown to the Danish public.
Altavista [dk.altavista.com]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ?
Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: New!
Everyday [search.everyday.com]
Language interface: Danish, Swedish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: Inktomi Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Ultra slow server
Kvasir [kvasir.dk]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: #2 with 446.000 unique visitors per week. Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: Fast. Uses Fast main index for global searches, own for local. Meta description used in search replies: No. Uses first text found on page.
Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: No Keyword in title: No Keyword in description: No Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Keyword density in text - the higher the better. Directory service from LookSmart. No submission possibillities for LookSmart in Scandinavia yet (mid Nov 2000), but will be supplied through Kvasir. Submission to Kvasir via Fast.
Lycos Denmark [dk.lycos.de]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ?
Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Direct Hit believed to serve first 3 listings on page 1.
MSN Search [search.msn.dk]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: Yes Search technology: Inktomi with Looksmart for directory services.
Meta description used in search replies: Yes
Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: Slightly Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: Yes Keyword in header: Yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: Yes Keyword in linktext: Yes Other: Uses Internet keywords from Realnames.
Opasia [opasia.dk]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: #3 with 320.000 unique visitors per week Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: Google
Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: No Local domain: No Keyword in URL: Yes? Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: No Keyword in meta keywords: No Keyword in header: yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: Yes Other: Linkage and Google page rank extremely important.
Thor [danielsen.com]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: Altavista Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Old database.
Known general directories:
Aeiwi [aeiwi.com]
Language interface: English Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? No. of categories allowed per site: ? Search method: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Other: ?
Jubii [jubii.dk]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: #1 with 860.000 unique visitors/week. 50% of SE market Local language(s) required: Yes Local domain(s) only: Yes Search technology: Own for directory, Fast for web searches. Meta description used in search replies: No
Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: No Keyword in description: No Keyword in meta keywords: No Keyword in header: No Keyword in 1st paragraph: No Other: 5 keywords can be chosen when submitting a site
Yahoo Denmark [dk.yahoo.com]
Language interface: Danish Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? No. of categories allowed per site: ? Search method: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Other: Believed to rank 3rd after Jubii and Kvasir.
Leitel (Faroe Islands) [leitel.fo]
Language interface: Faeroese Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? No. of categories allowed per site: ? Search method: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Other: ?
Local people who can help with translations and advise:
Rasmus Sørensen, rs@notabene.net a.k.a "Rumbas". SEO + translations from English, Spanish, German, French, Italian into Danish and English. This area will be updated with e-mail and/or web addresses to translators and SEO specialists, who have posted a reply in this discussion. Please state your name, web and/or e-mail address, languages to/from and what you can help out with. Prices and promotional stuff will be edited out.
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Updated May 6, 2001
Edited by: rencke
They have divided it into 3 categories:
Commercial sites
Erotic sites
Non-commercial/private sites
The commercial sites have 4 different submissions: standard, business light, business plus and business pro.
The standard is free with a 70 character description and 5 keywords - but you can expect to wait anywhere between 6-24 months before showing up!
Business light is 3 working days, 100 character (30+) description and 5 keywords for $180.
Business plus is 3 working days, 100 character description, 10 keywords for $300.
Business pro is 3 working days, 100 character description, 15 keywords and BOLD link for $600.
Erotic links is 3 working days, 100 character description and 5 keywords for $600.
Non-commercial/private is 3-6 months, 70 characters and 5 keywords all for FREE.
Jubii is still the absolut market leader in Denmark. Hope they can keep it up now that they really are weeding out the freebies.
Companies have to pay to get listed - the free option and waiting up to 2 years to get listed is ridiculous and the danish market have become somewhat expensive to enter.
Latest news including the Lycos/Spray/Jubii deal where among other things the Jubii Chat is supposed to be implemented on some of the Lycos Network sites in Europe. The Chat feature should be quite advanced - Jubii says that their ChatRobot (who controls the chatrooms) is supposed to recognise over a whopping 100.000 different phrases and questions. This knowledge is going to be translated into other languages and used on the Lycos sites in Europe. :)
Add url (in danish) [links.jubii.dk...]
/R.
It IS a lot of money - maybe too much. I guess they achieve their goal to stop giving it all away for free, but of course it will scare many website owners away from using Jubii for marketing.
Personally I think it is too steep - especially if you compare the prices to fx. Yahoo and Looksmart who has a MUCH wider reach. When using Jubii you basically know how many people you target and you can be sure they speak danish - hence Jubii only allow sites i danish language. You really have to have something unique and appealing to the danes to justify the fee.
I think this is only the tip of the iceberg - just saw an article mentioning the beginning of user fees at Msn.co.uk - around £60 per year for access to their content.
It is a new development - let's hope it does not wack all of the local portals for it's quest for cash.
I've been in close contact with Jubii the last couple of days and haven't heard anything about the FAST implementation. I've been expecting some sort of crawler implementation and my guess would have been FAST because of the Spray deal, but I didn't know they already have started it.
I did a couple of searches and the SERP's are very strange. I searched for our company and our description has infiltrated other domains with our domain name but with .com, .ch and .pl extensions..
The FAST db is only used for searching "the whole world".
Msgraph: THANKS for posting this info it's greatly appriciated :)
This is really exciting and I think I better get my contact on the phone first thing monday ;)
The International Search [verden.jubii.dk] at Jubii powered by FAST is gone right now from the front page. You can still access it from the link above though.
Wonder what Mikkel and the gang is up to? ;)
italian cars
italian cinema
and I got the same results!
(Nothing related to cars or cinema!!!)
Angiolo
"Hele Verden" (World) is back on the frontpage, but yes, the results are - like angiolo has already indicated - bad.
two word phrase = search on first word
"two word phrase" = two word phrase = search on first word
same for 3 word phrase...
Seems like they weight the title heavy.
Probably they are still working on it so I don't see any need to change titles yet, anyway, jubii is mostly used for Danish searches...
jubii, kvasir and alltheweb proper has only very small differences on their respective serps
Jubii are planning to launch a new paid user club where members - among other services - can get adult content.
I find this a little disturbing and had never seen a well know portal offer this kind of service..
Article in danish [computerworld.dk]
Good info. Will update the Danish overview with it today.
I just love it.
But according to the recent domain list of DKhostmaster there are 282618 subdomains as of april 9th 2001
Look here:
[dk-hostmaster.dk...]
But the txt file is huge!
Hosts in domain: 369.684 (Jul 2000)
It seems that the required annual fee of Kr. 50,- for each domain has freed up a lot of domains here in Denmark since july last year.
Namaste
E.g. times 4 for roughly monthly basis:
Site
[jubii.dk...] - 4.000.000
[sol.dk...] - 2.500.000
[opasia.dk...] - 1.800.000
[krak.dk...] - 1.350.000
[tv2.dk...] - 1.330.000
[ofir.dk...] - 1.270.000
[metropol.dk...] - 1.250.000
[dr.dk...] - 1.100.000
[degulesider.dk...] - 880.000
Article telling that Yahoo are selling hard core adult movies through their shopping part and getting a share of the profits.
LasVegasSun Article [lasvegassun.com]
Number edited to weekly unique visitors:
Site:
[jubii.dk...] - 956.000
[sol.dk...] - 580.000
[opasia.dk...] - 422.000
[krak.dk...] - 320.000
[ofir.dk...] - 315.000
[metropol.dk...] - 1.250.000
[tv2.dk...] - 308.000
[degulesider.dk...] - 227.000
[dr.dk...] - 223.000
[bigbrother.dk...] - 134.000
Notice how TV (Bigbrother) has an effect for traffic. Bigbrother content also figuring on Opasia.
:)
Rencke, tack for ditt mycket nyttigt jobbet!
Sorry, for my Swedish. :)
>one should not underestimate regional search engines
Amen! And Jubii is the perfect example of that with its absolutely dominating market share, which makes biggies like Altavista, MSN and Yahoo look puny by comparison. Rumbas' figures speak for themselves. This is what I keep preaching and preaching to the Americans and others. Forget about the big reach that the "major" engines can show on a European level. All markets are local and that's where you will make it or break it.
I had some expert local help on Danish search engines a few months ago after a Usenet discussion...quite a few of the regulars on the search engines newsgroups are from Denmark...getting local knowledge really makes a huge difference
The newsgroups are a great way of reaching foreign people - and eventhough we are not that many danes we seem to be on the right places on the right time ;)
However, if you really want to get information about (european) search engines, this is the place to hang out.
I'm thrilled that you receive that many visitors from Denmark. Imagine you could do the same with some other european markets.
Welcome to WmW by the way :)
R.
it's actually easier with the smaller countries...there are just so many places to get listed in German (for example)...I've started working quite hard on Dutch and the results are rather good already
the secret seems to be to get as much local knowledge as you can, but submit for yourself...time consuming but it seems to be working well
I also find Danish to be similar enough to English that it's easy to work in...I wish I could say the same about Finnish :(
Heh. Danish and Finnish languages are like night and day. I'm seriously considering improving my knowledge of Scandinavian languages (seeing the perspective of Scandinavian part of the internet on the one hand, and out of sheer interest in these languages on the other). But when I drop by some Finnish search engines I get really pessimistic of my abilities to master that language and spreading on to the Finnish market. :(
I would love to be able to master the Finnish as well though.
:)
I'm seeing different SERPs on the default search at Opasia (DK search) and at Google.com with preferences set to DK.
Databases not in sync.?
FAST and Google will be even more important here now :)
>I'm seeing different SERPs
I didn't check Opasia specifically, but I have seen that before in other European Googles. I think that the filtering may be different from what we expect. Using a different db would be so expensive in terms of hardware that I wonder if Opasia could afford it.
Rumbas: Let me know if you find an SEO person in Finland. Could need some help there myself.
Too bad you can't submit to the local Looksmart Directories yet.
