Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

The big Difference between the UK and the States

         

Brett_Tabke

10:19 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



They eat pizza with a knife and fork.

IanTurner

11:58 pm on Jun 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Caine - have you neve heard about the how each country will provide certain things to the european union. Britain will provide the food, Germany will provide the sense of humour etc, etc

IanTurner

12:04 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Theresa -you probably misunderstood what I meant by populist.

I was thinking of the US where eating McDonalds and visiting the mall is considered the norm. Much less so in the UK where these thing are frowned upon much more. You could also look at the US where being a socialist is a crime! I think that if I lived in the US with my views, I would find it much more difficult to be accepted by ordinary people than here in the UK.

mivox

12:45 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



you probably misunderstood what I meant by populist.

Oh yes... yes I did. :) OK, then I AM living in the same US you are thinking of.

macrost

12:52 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



blond or blonde?
Mac

martinibuster

12:53 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



I think that if I lived in the US with my views...

Not in San Francisco. ;) Y

jackson

1:15 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Giving this little thread a new direction.

The item I'm 'aving a 'ard time with is this 'erb thing. Suddenly all these guys with American accents are gabbling on about 'erbs - as in Rosemary, Sage and Thyme. Not sure if this is all in acknowledgement to the fact that the Latin-americans are now the largest minority group in the US or what and hence the use of this pronouciation.

"Ay, 'ave you 'eard the one about 'erbs and 'ash browns?

No? Nor have I. Just trying to make a point. Herb is spelt H-E-R-B pronounced "herb". Same with "hotel". Same with "happy" pronounced "happy" and NOT 'appy.

Not sure how this came to be but it sure sounds whacked out. Thought I'd share the one. 'ave a 'appy day.

digitalghost

1:27 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Blame it on Latin, and those Romance languages. Those French guys lost the "h" sound, (h)onor and (h)eir.

And while most folks in Britain pronounce the h in words like herb and herbivore, in the States we like our 'erb. Unless of course you're speaking of herbicide and herbivore, when we pronounce the h.

My opinion, be it ever so 'umble.

mivox

3:10 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I can think of some UK residents I've 'erd 'oo 'ave a much bigger grudge against the letter "H" than any Standard American English speaker. ;) (And I've heard lots of Americans -- myself included -- regularly say 'erbivore and 'erbicide)

Funny note... been listening to a lot of UK radio online lately, and every time a DJ tries to do an American accent as a gag, they do the worst version of a generic Southern accent I've ever heard... It's like the East and West coasts simply do not exist in their minds! (I guess that's not unlike all Americans who try to ape the English either doing a stilted "proper" accent, or an even worse version of something vaguely resembling cockney...)

namniboose

5:11 am on Jun 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Most British people only know 2 US accents: 'regular' and Southern. I'm only just starting to differentiate other accents like New York and Boston.

My family's bogus American accents are all based on 'Dallas' and 'Dynasty' ('Goodbye ya'll!)'

DerekH

8:32 pm on Jun 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Most British people only know 2 US accents: 'regular' and Southern. I'm only just starting to differentiate other accents like New York and Boston.

Boston?
Er, is that the one where they say Bawwwwston?

But surely England has more accents than four?
Cockney, Brummie, Souse, Geordie, Mancunian, plus the regulars like Estuary English, West Cuntree, Black Country (Doodlay), Yorkshire...

And over the border, there's Welsh, look you, talk about Dai Versity...

bateman_ap

9:23 pm on Jun 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



In London we have different accents for different parts of London, North, South and East (West doesn't really have a distinct one)

Always wondered, is there a US city, New York maybe that has this range of accents in such a small area?

mivox

11:09 pm on Jun 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Yes, New York has a variety of different accents, as does any major city here. And the major cities generally have different accents than the area surrounding them. Chicago has a totally different accent than the surrounding midwest. Boston has a different accent than other parts of Massachusets.

We have a wide variety of accents encompassed by the term "Southern"... Georgia is not the same southern accent as Texas, Louisianan, Florida, etc. Etc., etc., etc...

The west coast, from what I've seen, is the only large region that doesn't seem to have major regional differences in accents (with the exception of inner city accents in large urban areas). It is sort of a large expanse of "non accent" in a way. You'll find most people on the West Coast speak with what is known as Standard American English, which is the speech style you hear spoken by most national newscasters, and prerecorded audio systems like the announcements in airports.

martinibuster

11:19 pm on Jun 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Standard American English

Yup. It's because in most parts of California, (and the west in general), everyone is from somewhere else. Hardly anybody's a native.
In California we have different "ways of talking" more than accents per se.

Like the Jerry Lewis accent:
That's where every sentence ends as a question? Even if what your saying is a statement?

Los Angeles Chicano-Speak (sometimes known as huevon-ics, heh, heh)
That's the one where it's ora-le this, and ora-le that. Q-Vo, etc.

Then there's that Valley Girl stuff from the San Fernando Valley. You can also hear it a lot around Palo Alto, near where the Googleplex is located.

And I love hearing the old authentic jazz guys speak; their way of speaking is what the beatniks were emulating.

lawman

11:44 pm on Jun 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Even in south Georgia (USA) there is variety. I love listening to old southerners who say 'hit' for 'it', end sentences with 'dontchya know' and pronounce the last name 'Jordan' as 'Jerden'. And of course you have your Gentleman and Southern Belle accents, your city accents, your country accents, your teenage girl accents (analogous but quite different from Valley Girl accents) and your (politely) redneck accents.

And that's just around my baliwick.

lawman

shaadi

10:12 am on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



For me Brit gurls are more attactive than American gurls :)

They have chisel faces and amazin hair color ;)

How about - The big Difference between the UK and the States Females?

lawman

11:43 am on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



The big Difference between the UK and the States Females?

What those Czechoslovakian swingers, the Festrunk brothers said.

Hint --If you're too young to remember, think vintage SNL

lawman

mivox

4:41 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



How about - The big Difference between the UK and the States Females?

How about - NOT. I think more than one female member of the boards here would be considerably less than thrilled to see that topic discussed in depth.

chairwars

6:00 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



UK pint is bigger than an american pint.

namniboose

7:50 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



On the other hand, Mivox, we could discuss UK vs US Males.

I agreee, however, that it probably isn't a good idea!

steve128

7:50 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)



In the UK people can order a bacon sandwich using "queens english" wot wot...

Or the same person can order one in Jamaican, by using different words.

A beer can sandwich..man

Which proves the English have high understanding of dialect, -:

(ok stolen from ali g)

PS twister is often used in Yorkshire and applies to a "cheater".

ie, he cheated at cards, nothing but a twister. Though usually used by the older generation only.

Skylo

10:28 am on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



>>UK pint is bigger than an american pint.

Oh well, argument over guys;-)

Pricey

2:50 pm on Jun 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I was an alcoholic 3 years before you were even allowed in a pub 8)

chairwars

5:18 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I think that concludes it. Bigger UK pints, and you can drink them from 18.

Skylo

5:21 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Ah yes I forgot to say us South Africans can also drink when you 18.

"Gentleman, a toast........to the commonwealth!"
Hehe;-)

mivox

6:59 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Not only is the official UK pint measurement larger than the US pint...

US pint = 16 US fluid ounces -or- 16.65 UK fluid ounces
UK pint = 19.2 US fluid ounces -or- 20 UK fluid ounces
(Yeesh... almost makes one wish we'd gone metric)

...but most US bars use 14oz. "pint" glasses. Some even hand you a heavy-bottomed 12oz. glass when you order a pint. Absolute outrage! (I won't even go into what passes for "beer" in most of these places...)

Yeah, you got us beat on the beer issue, hands down. No contest.

chairwars

7:54 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I'm shocked by the American use of the pint. Where I come from if you even pour the head on a pint 1mm to large it goes straight back. (or there'll be trouble)

Robino

8:18 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



more dentists in the US.

Symbios

8:30 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Full of spunk has a very different meaning.

Americans tend to cut up all thier food, dispense with the knife and then start to eat the meal with the fork, we like to hack up the meal as we go along (apart from piza which we eat out of boxes).

Us English also like to eat meat of dubious origin from wagons in car parks on the way home from the pub.

mivox

8:44 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Us English also like to eat meat of dubious origin from wagons in car parks on the way home from the pub.

Over here we call that "fast food" and fool ourselves into thinking the McDonalds logo on the bag means it's NOT of dubious origin... ;)

Your car park version is probably better food. heheheh.

Symbios

10:00 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Mivox,

Last time I did McDonalds was after a really bad session in Hamburg, copious amounts of 'weiss bier' and no sign of a Donah Kebab wagon.

I ended up at a German McDonalds at 3 in the morning, ordered a gross mac and a Coke (whilst being careful not to mention the war), took one bite of the burger and decided it was time to go home.

ps forgot to mention, the car park version tastes great after beer, comes with chile sauce but like most best meals may have an affect the next day.

This 123 message thread spans 5 pages: 123