Home defence system.

Anybody got any ideas.

[requiem]

I am thinking about having a new home defence built. My current system is abit old fashioned and maybe a little to dangerous, it was juryrigged by my father a four years ago,
and consists of a barbwire basement, two trapdoors in the groundfloor, and some indoor electric fences, and one chair with an acid pillow. The system is great last summer an intruder went through one of the trapdoors and probaby got hurt badly, but I guess the time is right for a more hightech solution. Any ideas?

[vibgyor79]

Get a really ferocious guard dog.

[mack]

There are a lot of options available CCTV is one that I would go with. It not only catches someone in the act, But probably helps prevent anything happeneing in the first place, simply by having cameras visible.

The traps and contraptionas you mentioned could end up with you in court for criminal injuries if an intruder was injured.

Serves them right though if you ask me.

Most I have is a standard alarm system and a stripped down webcam inside a garden wall light.

Mack.

[Key_Master]

I have two security systems, an outdoor camera and two interior cameras (one connected to a pc). If a break in occurs, the system will call me and wake up the neighborhood. On top of all that, I can control most of the home lighting via remote. If the security systems don not deter a break in, I also happen to own several firearms. Needless to say, I haven't had a break in yet but my outdoor camera did help catch a thief that stole the neighbors car stereo. Turned out to be her son, lol.

[Hawkgirl]

> Get a really ferocious guard dog.

HUGE responsibility, though. My sister lives across the street from a woman who imports and sells diamonds; she has a true guard dog and the critter is not a pet. Everything - from walking the dog far away from other people to having visitors over for dinner - needs to be done cautiously when you have a guard dog. Not only because people don't generally understand the difference between working dog vs. pet, but also because apparently the liability of having a trained guard dog (aka a weapon) is enormous.

[requiem]

The problem with alarms and cameras is that they do not
hurt intruders. The acid pillow does cause the intruder great pain and damage, it is great for cars but not very effective in a home. I am looking for a 100% reliable way to ensure that anyone who uninvited enters my home will be seriously damaged, but not killed. I don't mind being charged with criminal injuries, I can afford a trial. I would not even mind paying damages.

[Key_Master]

What about the firemen who enter the house trying to save it?

[mat]

Wow. I'm so bothered by the notion of what an acid pillow is that I can't even bring myself to go and find out.

I'm sure I live with my head in the sand, but if this stuff is the alternative...

[Chris_R]

I am looking for a 100% reliable way to ensure that anyone who uninvited enters my home will be seriously damaged, but not killed.

I don't think this is possible. I tend to think you are joking (but am scared to find out).

If a kid died while snooping around your house - you'd probably be facing some serious problems. A cop or fireman - they'd go after you and try and get you for felony murder or something.

This guy got six months

[saf.org...]

If your state has a law against booby traps - and it is a felony - the felony murder rule could get you into a lot of trouble.

Isn't it worth preventing people from getting in in the first place - versus acid pillows and trap doors?

I can't imagine this is real. Anyone with that much time and money to engineer a "barbwire basement" would do better with some bars on the windows and medeco locks on the doors.

[digitalghost]

Maybe some falling boulders? Some bear traps? Punji Pits? Wire up some flash-bangs to disorient? Have you seen Home Alone? Some great ideas there. The ancient Egyption pyramid builders had a pretty good handle on building traps. Wile E. Coyote is no slacker, I think Acme is still in business, just have to hope that the Roadrunner isn't the one busting in...

[stever]

Well, Google doesn't think much of an "acid pillow" - but that's maybe because it's "broken" ;)

It must be fun having your kids wandering around the house rubbing their eyes in the morning avoiding electric fences, acid pillows and barbed-wire pits. More worrying is the idea that some people probably do take this stuff seriously and their children grow up with this level of paranoia.

[georgeek]

Move to a nicer neighbourhood, it will be better for you and the family in the long run.

[richardb]

Ummmm

CCTV and pointers as to what to go for?

TIA

Rich

[vibgyor79]

The next Webmasterworld conference should be held at Requiem's house. hehehe... Now that should be fun..

Everything - from walking the dog far away from other people to having visitors over for dinner - needs to be done cautiously when you have a guard dog

HawkGirl.. I was referring to a Poodle.

[deejay]

I was trying to avoid this post.. but I gotta say I agree with Mat. The potential for harm to visitors or emergency personnel is just unthinkable.

I dunno.. there is just nothing in my house that is worth enough to want these sorts of measures around.

Aside from me, of course, and I'm a light sleeper with lockable doors and climb-outable windows.

Oh.. and Brian my pc.. and my cat.. but she's got legs of her own and can take care of herself... so yeah, just me and Brian the Brain. :)

[digitalghost]

>>I was referring to a Poodle.

Doesn't matter, that house isn't safe for any dog. ;)

[trillianjedi]

I think the fashion these days is to go chemical/biological.

You need something fast acting of course, and the appropriate protective clothing/breathing apparatus in strategically hidden locations that you and your family can reach quickly just in case the system gets set off.

Just my 2c

TJ

[coconutz]

>>Any ideas?

Get some of these [ericsfunnypictures.com].

>>What about the firemen who enter the house trying to save it?

I'm sure they'll do their best [funny-city.com].

[digitalghost]

Thanks Coconutz, I needed the laugh. Watching screen after screen of data roll by simply isn't any fun.

I was thinking that maybe Requiem needs a couple of those uranium PU-36 explosive space modulators. Dat's da ticket.

[requiem]

Thank you for all the replies. I really enjoyed the funny pictures :-)

I guess I could live with trillianjedi idea; rigg some cs gas granades and buy a few more gasmasks. It will be easiest to use tripwires but it will probably be safer and more efficient to use motion detectors to trigger the granades.

If there is a fire at my house I guess the firemen would be wearing protective equipment, and would therefore not be affected.

[glengara]

Take a leaf from the Homeland Security book, scope out any possible bad guys in your area, and go do some preemptive work on them.

[coconutz]

Funny pictures are some what a tradition in Foo. :) Hope you find a workable solution.

[requiem]

I have just found a company that was willing to
implement the solution trillianjedi suggested, after having a lot of compaies refusing to take on the task. The thing is that that I have to use peppergas insted of cs. The system will be triggerd just the same way as an alarm as a matter of fact I had to get a warning alarm and a 25 seconds delay, it was the condition the company set for installing the system. So after the weekend my home will be safe for the ignorant fireman, and unwelcoming to intruders.
I am so happy to get rid of the traps. :-)

Thanks a million trillianjedi!

[jimbeetle]

>>last summer an intruder went through one of the trapdoors and probaby got hurt badly

Just gotta' ask: Is s/he still there? If so, being fed and watered daily?

[Brad]

A moat with aligators.

[mivox]

> Get a really ferocious guard dog.
Everything - ... - needs to be done cautiously when you have a guard dog. Not only because people don't generally understand the difference between working dog vs. pet, ...

Good lord, who trained the beast?! Any properly trained dog should darn well do anything the owner says at the drop of a hat... including (perhaps most importantly) the classic beginning obedience command: Down! Stay!

If a dog can't be trusted, it's not well trained, IMO. With the exception of some very specialized breeds, even a "guard dog" should be able to be ordered "off duty" by its owner, or at least told to go lay down and shut up, working dog or not.

[drbrain]

The bunny from Monty Python's Holy Grail.

Can't be too many Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch around now, can there?

[Shane]

requiem, where do you live?

[john316]

> Get a really ferocious guard dog.

Actually, any dog that barks a lot will do, even a friendly one. Intruders are a lazy lot (otherwise they would have jobs), and will probably just go to the next house if they hear any dog.

Of course, like DigitalGhost said, it doesn't sound like your house is safe for any dog.

Are you actually serious, or is this a foo funnin Friday?

[Quinn]

Just gotta' ask: Is s/he still there? If so, being fed and watered daily?

it puts the lotion in the basket