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But I dont want to give 3 more links for the category because the additional links would be my competitors - who are not smart enough yet to be listed:)
Will the 3 new links be added?
Can I complete the application and not list 3 new links and yet have any hopes of becoming an editor?
According to DMOZ rules, there can be good reason for a site to have as many as 3 links. 1 would be in its topical category, 1 in the corresponding Kids & Teens category, and 1 in regional.
Of course most won't fit all those criteria.
But when a URL comes up that is already in another category, the editor going to list it sees previous notes about it.
Someone has mentioned editor abuse. Any time human discretion is involved there is potential for human abuse. Human discretion is what DMOZ, Zeal, and other directories have to offer -- it's what makes them, theoretically, more accurate representations than bot-built lists.
I have a site with over 20 biographies, and ODP lists the home page of the site under arts:literature:biography, and links to the individual page of ~15 of the biographies under the ODP subcategory of that person.
As both the site owner and an ODP editor, I am happy that the editors of those categories chose to list the biography in their category.
I have absolutely no editorial privileges in the sections where these pages appear, and furthermore, in most cases I didn't even ask that the page be added, the editors found the pages themselves.
Incidentally, most of the biographies are also linked in Yahoo directory as well in their appropriate subcategories.
Perhaps this is "apples and oranges" since this is basically a non-commercial site (it has amazon affiliate links).
But I would guess that most would agree that the content of the individual pages justifies deep links.
Humm....
one persons read on these category additions may well differ from the next persons. My guess is that a passing editall or meta could zap all the pages.!
one persons read on these category additions may well differ from the next persons. My guess is that a passing editall or meta could zap all the pages.!
Well, you would have to see the content, I suppose. I have biographies, of a variety of authors, most of them between 3000 and 10,000 words, and they include links to the individuals bibliography and any films based on their books or life.
This is an ongoing project that I have been working on for the past ~8 years.
These are not one paragraph snippets created to generate amazon affiliate revenues.
Most of these biographies are products of many hours of research, real "in the library" research.
Sticky me if you want the URL to judge for yourself.
I wasn't casting aspersions on the value of your site. Or on the individual sub sections that refer to individual authors.
The point I was making was that some editors in DMOZ will zap (virtually) any site with affiliate tags. You are best off IMHO keeping well away from specifics and avoid inviting perusal of the actual site!
"Zapacity" varies somewhat by editor, true. Other more important factors must be considered as well.
How commercial/competitive is the category? High-quality, non-commercial sites likely have an easier time receiving multiple listings or deeplinks.
How large is the category? The editor of a very specialized category with only 5 listings will tend to be forgiving of on-topic deeplinks, even if the site already has several ODP listings elsewhere. That same editor reviewing submissions to a category which already has 150 listings will tend to be less generous.
How active is the category? If editing a category which receives many look-alike submissions a week, an editor will tend to seek reasons to reject.
-- Rich
That, of course, is for each LANGUAGE the site contains "significant native-speech unique content" in. (That is, don't babblefish all your pages into umpteen dozen languages!)
>I have a site with over 20 biographies ... of a variety of authors, most of them between 3000 and 10,000 words, and they include links to the individuals bibliography and any films based on their books or life... ODP lists the home page of the site under arts:literature:biography, and links to the individual page of ~15 of the biographies under the ODP subcategory of that person.
This is a kind of "approved deeplinking" again, the unique content rule applies. We may not need another Britney Clueless Spears biography (even assuming anything significant were contained in any of them.) But we _don't_ have a good, say, Lowell Mason biography, and _this_ meta, for one, would be _happy_ to list the first 10,000-word one submitted. (There may be more searches on Britney Spears, but, face it, Mason's influence on American musical culture may be greater even today, and will certainly still be greater five years after BS's third facelift. But we'll CONSIDER deeplinking unique content for any person with his own "eponymous" category. That includes artists, entertainers, politicians, televangelists; and includes all sorts of content: biography, works, etc., etc., etc.)
Check to see what's out there already (go for the "unique" content, the people without adequate biographies already). Links are a nice addition, but the ODP does links, and might prefer to "strip-mine" links if there were nothing else unique at the site. And I'm not _about_ to go out there deleting them in bulk.
This does say CONSIDER deeplinking. The usual suspects -- too many popup banners, too little unique content, massive overload of that kind of content already listed, too prominent commercialism -- may well predispose editors (even meta-editors) to rejection. Adding prominent commercial content AFTER acceptance DOES invite bulk removal -- as has happened before!
But play nice, provide content that people can easily use for the sake of the subject, and we AREN'T going to reject for the sake of a reasonable-sized "sponsored" banner and links. We AREN'T going to reject JUST because of the presence of a bibliography (filmography, discography) with Amazon.com links.
This isn't a wholesale invitation to commercial deeplinks -- it's a recognition that commercial sites may contain valuable not-directly-commercial content (even though related to their commercial purpose.) E.g., a tour guide might set up photo galleries for particular sites or regions where he works (again, look for places that merit a "maps and views" subcategory)
