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Will cloaking help me in this case?

Two domains should be interchanged.

         

Noximus

3:36 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,
I plan to change one domain with another. I've access to the both of domains, so they are not my competitors ones. I would like to change one domain which is longer and less descriptive than the new one. The problem is that the first domain has 1000s of links and good pr. Is it possible in any way to change this domain with the second one without loosing links, PR and Place in SERPs? Will cloaking help me in this case?

In advance thank you for the reply.

Regards,
Noximus

cellolita

7:39 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i think cloaking would not help you in this case. you donīt want to lose your link popularity? I think you should simply use a permanent redirect (301) from your old domain to the new one. the links will be allocated to our new domain.

cellolita

Noximus

4:28 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you cellolita for the reply.
Have you had any exparience with 301 redirects?
Is there anybody who has some sites redirected with 301?
How do they perform in search engines?

Receptional

4:32 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



301s work well imho. But it needs some work - you need to redirect page by page (or via a script), otherwise you may lose all the relevency if you redirect inner pages to the new home page. Do the mapping properly and you should be fine. Then - switch the error 404 to a 301 message for good measure

Noximus

8:17 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Receptional,
I'd like to clarify some issues.

I plan to change the whole site and the hosting also.
I plan to delete the old site.
The backlinks are directed to only the homepage.

Will I still need to redirect page by page? or is it enough to redirect just the old homepage?

Noximus

9:29 am on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Receptional,
Please help me. It is the first time I came across 301 redirect.

cellolita

11:27 am on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In your case i think you have to use the .htaccess and and e.g. the following statements. Put the .htaccess file in your folder of your old domain.
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RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^(.*) [newdomainname.com...] [R=301]
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With this tool you can view your header information, a 301 redirection should now be shown.
[delorie.com...]

If you would only save your backlinks, this would be the smartest way.

... but i think its not a cloaking topic, rather a "apache webserver" topic.

cellolita

Noximus

11:58 am on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you very much cellolita,
You said "If you would only save your backlinks".
Do you mean that I will still lose backilinks if I use 301 redirect?

Noximus

5:54 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is there still a chance that I will lose my backlinks?
If there is any, How big is it?

Is there any kind of redirect or anything else that will allow me to change domains fully and to not lose backlinks?

Please reply, I'd apriciate very much.

In advance THANK YOU VERY MUCH!