decloaking

i want to analyze the source code

[jessi]

i would like to view the sorce code not to duplicate but just to analyze and learn from it.

[littleman]

Here is a very simple script [cgi-fun.hypermart.net].

[jessi]

Thank you very much littleman. Yes I'am a newbie. but i want to make sure that the info that that you gave me is to decloak a page not cloak. what happened was that A site was stolen from me, submitted to Yahoo and then when i realized what happened and tried to look at the source code the page was cloaked can you beleive that? I do know how to cloak but i do not kinow how to look at some one elses cloaked page is it possible? And have you heard of ip-delivery?

[oilman]

Hi jessi - little's script is for cloaking not de-cloaking or cloak busting. Basically to bust cloaking you need to imitate a spider. You can do this by changing your user agent name to that of a common spider or by changing your IP to match that of a spider. There are other methods but I'm not a cloaker and can't comment on them because I just don't know enough.

The user agent approach is fairly easy to do. The IP approach is very difficult and very illegal.

IP delivery is cloaking based on the IP of the visitor and UA delivery is cloaking based on the User Agent of the visitor.

[littleman]

>what happened was that A site was stolen from me, submitted to Yahoo and then when i realized what happened and tried to look at the source code the page was cloaked can you beleive that?

I think there might be something else going on. This stuff could be confusing to a beginner.

Could you tell me exactly what happened?

[jessi]

Well what happend is i mad a site and
uploaded to the net before I even had a chance to submit to the SEs the site was already in yahoo so they took my site i guess they downloaded to frontpage and then made some minor changes uploaded submited to yahoo and was accepted but then i emailed and the person was nice enough to take the site down but if it was to happen again how can i be able to view the cloaked page?
i know this has nothing to do with the subject but is there a place were i can get some ip's?

[jessi]

Well what happend is i mad a site and
uploaded to the net before I even had a chance to submit to the SEs the site was already in yahoo so they took my site i guess they downloaded to frontpage and then made some minor changes uploaded submited to yahoo and was accepted but then i emailed and the person was nice enough to take the site down but if it was to happen again how can i be able to view the cloaked page?
i know this has nothing to do with the subject but is there a place were i can get some ip's?

[littleman]

Jessi, it looks like your site was pagejacked. That is what we call it around here. Cloaking is something different, it is the are of delivering some content to some machines while delivering different content to others.

[ettore]

Uhmm... and *stealth* pages has nothing to do with *stolen* pages, that is, pagejacking.

>>i would like to view the sorce code not to duplicate but just to analyze and learn from it.<<

Uhmmm... can you elaborate what you think you could *learn* from a source code that has been copied/stolen since you are the original author?
What you mean with "the page was cloacked"? That you cannot access the source code?

[jessi]

first of I want to thank everyone who replied to my question!
and to answer the last reply yes i was the author but they did change the meta tags and i wanted to view what they had done basiclly i do know exactly what cloaking is i just thought someone might be able to help me to view a cloaked page.
what kind of research do I do you ask, well when i build my pages I examine the top 15 sites to determine what SEs look for and then create my site
I do not believe in spamming cloaking or java redirects if i did then i would use but that is not who I'am.
if anyone still can answer on how to view a cloaked page I would appriciate it if not thanks once again for everyones replies and comments.

It was extremely nice to meet all of you.

[Brett_Tabke]

Thanks for stopping in Jessi. You may try little's trick and also try stopping over to Google and viewing the cached page from their site. There are many dummies out there not hiding their cloaked stuff from Google and it gets indexed (found 3 great ones last night under killer "kelly blue book" style kw's).