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For everyone - $2739.726 per day is possible

I'm going to prove it

         

hdpt00

5:42 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)



I hope no one minds, but like rfung I too am on a journey. I hope the mods won't mind if I make this sort of my mini blog, that way I don't have to worry about hosting, spam, etc.

To start off with my goal is clear and attainable. My current situation is this; I run a few small niche sites and average around $120 a day profit, so I am looking for over 2000% growth.

Here are the rules:
1) Within one year of the site going live (< 2.5 months) I want to hit this
2) I will not give up
3) It will be with a brand new domain and site
4) I am starting with just over $5,000 (however, more may be added if the checks lag behind too much, but that will be accounted for).
5) It will use affiliate programs as well as AdSense

Here is what has already been done:
1) 1 link from a previous site has been pointed to some placeholder content, google has indexed the site with no title, I may add some more links soon
2) Site design has been outsourced, almost complete
3) An outsourced programmer has been confirmed for the CMS
4) An LLC has been formed for the company
5) 10 contractors have been hired to write continuous content

Here is the timeline:
1) Design done within another week
2) Programmed and ready to go live within 2.5 months from now

Expectations:
1) I imagine I will need a few million impressions per month to obtain this, but I want to be at this level within 1 year
2) I might have to hire a full time programmer and a few content writers along the way

I am sure a lot of other unexpected things will happen along the way, but just wanted to make an initial post much like rfungs, I will next update when the site is completed.

Wish me luck.

P.S. Multiply my daily goal by 365 ;-). I may not respond to PMs, don’t be offended, I’m just busy.

Success

11:38 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Lots of people make $350/hr, I have a lawyer buddy who brings in about $500. Same with my day who is a consultant, he bills his clients $5000 per day.

Oh, did you mean $1.90 per minute not second?

Zygoot

11:45 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't mind earning $1.9 a second. That would make $164,160 a day! WOOT

rfung

11:47 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yeah,per minute :)

if it was per second, that's probably Bill Gates.

And Success, you probably hang around some really high circles...

no one I know makes that kind of money. $50k/year is probably a lot already.

Zygoot

11:56 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I did a quick search on Google and found out that - depending on the source - Bill Gates made about $150 a second.

hdpt00

11:56 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)



I think the interim CEO of Krispy Kreme is making something like $600/hr...? And I bet he is working like 14 hour days.

I know some lawyers that charge $125/hr and some others that charge around $600 (and then there is also those patent lawyers and class action lawyers. On some of those big cases they win I imagine they are making something like $1,000/hr after they get their commissions figured out and such.

Wal Mart probably makes $1,000/second.

flobaby

11:58 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Gee, suddenly I don't feel so bad about having a calculator next to the bed.

Success

12:21 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't consider the circles I hang around high class at all. I know a lot of people that make great money but they aren't flashy with it, they just live normal lives.

rfung

12:39 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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which just as a fun exercise to tickle one's brain,

what do you do when you're earning $1000/day, or $30k/month, _besides_ saving for retirement, investing in real estate, etc,etc?

what would you do for _fun_?

hdpt00

1:03 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



Let's assumer you take home $18k/month after taxes. Assume you have a 1 million dollar mortgage, that is about $6500 or so a month. I think what you do is definitely get a Ferrari, Lamborghini <insert nice car here>. Assume with insurance and everything that is $2000. Still have about $10K for savings, life insurance, food, etc, plent to live off of.

$360K/year probably puts you in the top 5% of hourseholds.

Season ticks to your favorite sports as well!

rfung

5:38 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm thinking houses in different parts of the world, and live where the sun is. A nice car would go well, first class tickets anywhere you travel. I have such poor imagination....

midlifecrisis

12:20 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Ferrari, Lamborghini <insert nice car here>"

Aston Martin DB9, no question about it.

MovingOnUp

1:35 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For me, it wasn't nice cars (although we have a few--nothing extravagant), exotic vacations (although we've been on several), a huge mansion (although we built one several years ago), or other material items. It's the financial security that I can provide for my family and the people I can help. I have ten times as much saved for retirement as I had a few years ago. I give more to charity every year than I used to make in a year. (I pay more in taxes every year than I used to make in a year, too.) My children have both of their parents home with them every day. These things are priceless.

Undead Hunter

1:51 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I used to think this way, too - big house, expensive car.

Now I think that instead of a $1 million home, I buy a million dollar business. My biz consultant was telling me about something he was trying to buy for a million - a four store retail operation, brand-name. Everything is "automated" - the accountants do all the work, except for purchasing. The current owner spends 30% of his time on the golf course, and the other time doing purchasing and just running around the stores to visit.

Right now a big house is a money pit because of the Boomers retiring in 10 years or less. They all have big houses, everyone's in real estate now... so what will happen when they start retiring? Everyone HAS to sell those houses, that's where their money is tied up... hence, glut of big houses, drop in market value. It's just supply and demand.

Buy a ranch style house, no stairs, big accessways for wheelchairs and the like. Guaranteed in the Retirement Wave that those will sell the hotest.

Anyway - my wife and I have always wanted a custom built home. Kind of house that has a swimming lane in the second floor. Saw a modern architextural display with this - we loved it. But first we'll need to have multiple income streams, have so much that something like this will be a minor expense at that time.

And I'm going to resist the expensive car. It just makes everyone else feel bad about themselves. No, I want to be a stealth millionaire. The thing is, when you really have money? You don't give a #*$! what other people think. Like my consultant, I never would have expected he could afford a million dollar investment! I see this time and time again with *business owners*. It's the posers who work a corporate job that try to look "rich", and are blowing their money away. Like my cousin's husband - they have a nanny, buy expensive wines all the time, huge house, etc. etc. But if the guy would cut back and buy a business, he could outdo his current lifestyle and be truly rich in a short time.

Thankfully, he's too vain to do it, and be competition for the rest of us.

... I have to say thanks again for this thread. It's very motivating. It opens my eyes to new possibilities, makes me eager to try new things and expands the boundaries for us all.

mfishy

2:27 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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$360K/year probably puts you in the top 5% of hourseholds.

In the US, it puts you in the top 1 percent.

Back to topic, if you do SEO, it is possible to go from 0 to $2739.726 daily with one site scoring well on big money terms.

hdpt00

3:53 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



Back to topic, if you do SEO, it is possible to go from 0 to $2739.726 daily with one site scoring well on big money terms.

mfishy - I just can't seem to SEO. I have as high as PR as my competitors, but these damn 301/302 page jackings I think are really screwing me up. I know of at least 4 sites linking to me via 301/302 and they are coming up in an allinurl: search for my domain that I've optimized the most. I used to be in the 90s during the sandbox, but I think now I am being penalized because of these pagejackers and can't even be found. I'm about 6-7 months in from googlebot's first spidering.

I guess I just got the wrong link exchanges.

Success

5:04 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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seo is much more than just link exchanging. You said yourself you have the same page rank as your competitors. While linking is still important at this stage there are other things you should be doing.

hdpt00

5:22 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



While linking is still important at this stage there are other things you should be doing.

After my 301/302 page jacking issues get fixed up what other stuff could you recommend? I think I've done as much as I can on page stuff and a wide variety of anchor text. Anything else, I've been reading about google optimization for a while now and thought I had everything down pat. Until last update I was #1 allinanchor: then got hit with this page jacking and my competitor who was also in the sandbox moved to #1 allinanchor: and took the #1 spot in the SERPs. I can no longer be found because of this page jacking.

tsinoy

5:28 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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forgive my ignorance... :) what does "allinanchor:" mean?

Success

5:43 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'd need to review the site in question, your competition, and know more details before I could provide any feedback.

too much information

7:05 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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at least 4 sites linking to me via 301/302

I just thought of something:
The 301 redirect is a 'permanent redirect' which does not cause problems with the search engines, it notifies of a discontinued page and gives the new location.
The 302 redirect is a 'temporary redirect' which seems to be scoring content for the site doing the redirect. Would it be possible to reverse this effect?

Follow me through this thought process...

1) Rename your page so that their 302 redirect points to a page that is no good.
2) Feed a 301 'permanent redirect' from the discontinued page to the new page. (This does not award any content or PR to the other site, but lets the search engines continue to find your content which is now counted as yours)
3) Then link to that other site with a 302 from the new page theirby gaining their content through a 302 redirect of your own.

It seems that the logic is there, maybe someone with a little more server knowledge can point something out.

hdpt00

10:51 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



too much info: how do you want me to go about renaming my "/" page that I have thousands of links pointing to?

too much information

3:29 am on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well I guess we'll have to tackle that one once we find out if we can reverse the effect of the 302.

wow, that does suck if it's all to your index file...

how about get a few cheap domains linked to your site, and 302 to the other sites?

I would just hate to see you miss your goal only because of some fools with a 302 redirect. what a bummer.

hdpt00

4:01 am on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



This won't affect my goal as this isn't the site/business I'm dealing with. It's just a site I currently have on low maintenance money maker.

ScadSense

5:41 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



hdpt00 - any updates?

I've been inspired enough with 1+ year of Adsense, but thanks for adding fuel to the fire. I already had started down the path of how to take a jump from earning hundreds per month online to earning ... well, UPS club... so I could exceed my offline income.

My own rules - adapted from yours in #3 (added maybe) and #4 (10% of your dollars):

1) Within one year of the site going live (< 2.5 months) I want to hit this
2) I will not give up
3) It will be with a brand new domain and site (maybe)
4) I am starting with $500 - using existing hosting at no additional cost.
5) It will use affiliate programs as well as AdSense

My content strategy is different - I have 2 strategies that are complimentory, and low cost without off-shoring. I've spent about $100 so far, but not actually started the online aspect.

I'll report back - perhaps in my own thread - on more. Primarily, I want to get the traffic and email addresses (double-opt-in) to allow $10K per month to be a minimum. Currently < $1000 from Adsense per month.. somehow I wound up in March with non-Adsense ad revenue going higher than $1k (& it was cash up front, not affiliate), but it may have been a one-time event.

No details will be spilled on specific traffic or content strategies... yet. Both are slight twists on mainstream approaches - one I see has worked for someone who is doing it in a different vertical market, and one is very vulnerable to theft by scraping/repackaging (and I will be paying for copyright to protect it).

General area is business and finance.

too much information

12:04 pm on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well we know your goal is possible, evidence here:

[bizjournals.com...]

but how is your work progressing? any updates?

also, have you learned anything about your process that you can share such as 'things you should never do'?

hdpt00

1:10 pm on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



Right now I'm waiting for the 2nd generation CMS to be complete and then will do more beta testing on that and then probably one more generation. Site should be up within 2-4 weeks.

I am a bit disapointed the programmer took so long, but it was sort of expected, programmers always take long.

I have a full listing in google and a few backlinks in yahoo listed. I'm still thinking of ideas on how to get a lot of links and broaden advertising beyong AdWords.

In terms of things you shouldn't do: Don't expect everyone to follow your deadlines. However, the free time between updated of the CMS and design has allowed me to work on some other projects and I have another big site planned as well and 2 others (big sites) in the works. However, the one I am referring to in this thread will still be the one with the most potential I believe.

Until the next update,
Peace

badone

5:22 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As a programmer, I resent that remark. It's true..... but I still resent it ;-)

Cheers,
BAD

Michael Anthony

9:00 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Just had to share this. I just hit this target, $2739 per day, over the last week.

I'm sure it won't last, but it feels great to be the first person to post here who's actually done it.

And before you ask, 20 months, £200k on PPC and more help and friends made on here and places like this than I could ever have dreamt of.

Thanks!

Richard Overvold

9:11 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Congrats Mike!

Richard Overvold

9:20 pm on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hdpt00,

Out of curiousity, how far are you along in your mission? Haven't been keeping up, and 15 pages is too much to sift through! :)

Rick

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