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For everyone - $2739.726 per day is possible

I'm going to prove it

         

hdpt00

5:42 pm on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)



I hope no one minds, but like rfung I too am on a journey. I hope the mods won't mind if I make this sort of my mini blog, that way I don't have to worry about hosting, spam, etc.

To start off with my goal is clear and attainable. My current situation is this; I run a few small niche sites and average around $120 a day profit, so I am looking for over 2000% growth.

Here are the rules:
1) Within one year of the site going live (< 2.5 months) I want to hit this
2) I will not give up
3) It will be with a brand new domain and site
4) I am starting with just over $5,000 (however, more may be added if the checks lag behind too much, but that will be accounted for).
5) It will use affiliate programs as well as AdSense

Here is what has already been done:
1) 1 link from a previous site has been pointed to some placeholder content, google has indexed the site with no title, I may add some more links soon
2) Site design has been outsourced, almost complete
3) An outsourced programmer has been confirmed for the CMS
4) An LLC has been formed for the company
5) 10 contractors have been hired to write continuous content

Here is the timeline:
1) Design done within another week
2) Programmed and ready to go live within 2.5 months from now

Expectations:
1) I imagine I will need a few million impressions per month to obtain this, but I want to be at this level within 1 year
2) I might have to hire a full time programmer and a few content writers along the way

I am sure a lot of other unexpected things will happen along the way, but just wanted to make an initial post much like rfungs, I will next update when the site is completed.

Wish me luck.

P.S. Multiply my daily goal by 365 ;-). I may not respond to PMs, don’t be offended, I’m just busy.

Success

7:29 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have no idea how the company came to do what we do, I haven't been working here since the start. I guess the owner just kinda of fell into to it somehow.

It's not big ticket items, they range anywhere from $99-$350, and we only have about 3-4 different items.

It's very very targeted, it's certainly something that a person would seek out to buy, if we were to do a traditional marketing campaign that probably wouldn't work for us. Just about every single customer we have comes from search engines, the rest are probably referals.

rfung

9:39 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Once you quit to start your own company, pass on a good word to your boss about me, I'm interested in working;)

So this company just dropships items basically? or does it still work with an affiliate model? why the need for employees? (sorry for all the questions, just curious to learn about other types of opportunities, even if i don't know what exactly is being sold)

tsinoy

10:02 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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looks like a niche product...

Success

10:10 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'll be sure to put in a good word for you.

There's actually about 12 employees in total, most of them answer the phones to fullfill orders and answer questions. Then a general manager, a web designer, two shipping guys, and me the marketing person. The owner actually only shows his face about once a month, he pretty much sits back and collects the checks. His need for me is bring traffic to the site, I do all the seo and sem.

rfung

10:58 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Success:

you wouldn't be working for mfishy, would you?;-)

anyway, good luck with your site - what's the projected launch date?

Success

11:12 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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who's mfishy? Anyways we've hi-jacked this thread enough, if you have any other questions send me a PM.

macz_g

10:45 pm on Feb 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Make sure you review your existing contract. Beware the evil "Direct Competition" clause.

When taking from peoples pockets they tend to become merciless & vengeful.

MovingOnUp

11:52 pm on Feb 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If there's no inventory, what are the "two shipping guys" shipping? Something doesn't quite add up.

AffiliateDreamer

12:18 am on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just in time delivery of inventory....

possible?

Success

12:30 am on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It adds up, that's all you need to know. Now let's get back to the topic at hand.

hdpt00

6:11 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



UPDATE: Every bot (MSN, ASKJEEVES, SLURP) have been to my site, except googlebot!

I have 3 links pointing at it, hope google gets on this quick and adds me. I am currntly showing a URL only listing, it knows I'm out there.

Undead Hunter

6:25 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey H:

Are you making sales yet via the PPC engines?

When does that come into play?

Hunter

hdpt00

6:48 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



On my current sites which my new idea is roughly based on I do sell stuff via AM. I wish to not disclose what % of my income that is.

I do PPC as well and it has been very effective.

Undead Hunter

7:17 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The website isn't complete yet, right? That's why you aren't doing PPC & AM right now with it?

hdpt00

4:49 am on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



UPDATE: The beta of the CMS is being updated tomorrow. I am going to start playing around with it and see how far along the programmer has come. Google is still just indexing the domain name without a title. I haven't seen googlebot on the site yet, even though MSN, AskJeeves and Slurp have all visited this month. I also just moved the site to a new server so it is on its own account now instead of just an addon domain. This will allow greater flexibility for programming, email, etc. This was accounted for in the budgeting and nothing unexpected.

kellyandsummer

8:01 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I was 14 I started my first business and sold it when I was 15 for a very generous price and hence have some money to experiment with and not lose too much of my savings. It was an online greeting card site and got about 100,000 impressions per day with about 100K people on the mailing list.

Sounds odd, but this sounds exactly like a motivated entrepreneur I've spoken with before several times. Are you a student at Virginia Tech by chance?

Michael Anthony

6:14 pm on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hey, you only have a month and a half to go. Are you 40% of the way to your goals yet?

jamsy

6:39 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't understand why the fuss over being spidered by google if you don't want/need the free traffic?

hdpt00

10:18 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



kelly: not vtech, went to the school that brought up one of google's founders.

michael: month and a half until which goal? I gave myself a year until the site goes live. Do you mean until I get the site up?

The fuss over getting spidered by google is that I will take all the free traffic I can get and I will do some SEO, but want to have a significant user base where I don't need the free traffic, just a bonus. It wouldn't be wise to just ignore free traffic.

Tapolyai

12:53 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hdpt00 envy. I am trying to do the same as you and watching you with capital just eats my gut. My base capital was $50. Got the domains in the can, have the general niche, and now some pages, but I have to write the site myself. But, best wishes.

Technical question - I presume you are not hosting yourself this site. Can you describe the hosting service and bandwidth you purchased for this site? What is your cost?

Can you describe the platform, programming languages you are using?

Also presuming the "staff" you are talking about are contractors and not full time employees. Are they remote? How did you structure their payments?

Thanks.

AffiliateDreamer

3:00 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Tapolyia,

Hosting, programming languages etc I think are pretty much irrelevant really. The ultimate success of this plan has nothing to do with any of those things in, unless ofcourse the site is promoting those techonologies....

the real focus will be on his content and marketing etc.

Michael Anthony

3:11 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



From your first opening post...

"Here are the rules:
1) Within one year of the site going live (< 2.5 months) I want to hit this "

I'd say that the title of this thread is also misleading - it should read "IS $2739.726 per day possible?"

I'd say yes, but not within these timeframes.

davec

6:41 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have to agree with Michael Anthony that it's certainly possible, but not in those timescales.

We are currently doing about half of your target (due in part to the fact we trade in pounds sterling and the weakness of the dollar at the moment) and it's taken just shy of 2 years now.

d

MovingOnUp

9:54 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sure, it's possible. Dave hit half of that in two years. I've hit $3000 per day in 3 months with one site, but was only able to maintain it for about 5 months. I've exceeded $1000 per day on two other sites, both less than a year after launching the sites. Surely we're not the best there is.

If you think it's not possible, you're right. It isn't. For you.

Obviously the original poster thinks it's possible too, otherwise he wouldn't have set it as a goal.

People thought the Wright brothers were crazy when they said they would be able to fly. People probably thought Edison would never succeed in creating a light bulb. People thought Kennedy's goal of having a manned moon landing by the end of the 60s was unattainable. These people all thought it was possible, though. And they were all right. Think big. A defeatist attitude will never get you anywhere.

Zygoot

10:59 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MovingOnUp, impressive story.

Do you spend a lot of money on advertising/PPC/... to achieve such high profit?

MovingOnUp

11:13 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No. Less than 10% of my revenue is used on advertising. PPC is a growing part of some of my sites, but most of the growth came from organic methods (word of mouth, free publicity, etc.).

davec

12:39 am on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I should probably add that I'm not making any of that (well a miniscule amount) form affiliate programs. Pretty much all comes from PPC results delivered for Overture, Espotting, Adsense and various other providers.

I do however plan on starting working on affilate revenue later this year.

d

hdpt00

5:32 am on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)



Michael present some valid points in that if I went with all traditional routes it will be hard to hit this goal in a year.

I however, am with movingonup, I think it is possible. And even if it takes two years, I think it can be done. I have big plans in the next coming months, hopefully it all works out.

I'll try and keep you guys updated as best as possible.

jefuchs

12:37 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've already made money off of this thread.

Previously, I only had AdSense on my site, and made pennies per day. Commission Junction affiliate ads weren't getting me anywhere.

Then I signed up for a high-paying aff program, and bugged my readers to join their website, which cost them nothing, but makes me a good commission.

My typically non-compliant readers were quite sluggish about signing on, but in a week I got just enough to qualify for my first $250 check, which will arrive this week.

That's my seed money. I can afford to buy ppc ads out of pocket, but I want my site to pay for itself, so I was waiting for revenue to come in. When the check arrives, I'll buy some ppc and try to build on what I've got started.

I'm also seeking and finding more reciprocal links. Those seem to pay off immediately, according to my stats. Humor sites typically carry multiple recip links, and often have a form for webmasters to complete to get listed. I need to make a point of adding my site to several each day.

It's a slow slog, but yes, it can be done. I believe my success will come very slowly, since I have chosen a low-paying niche, but it's coming along.

rfung

11:08 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just thought to play with the numbers:

$2739.726/day

that's $114.155/hour

or $1.902 per second.

with a regular job, that's $350/hr for an 8 hour day...

which professions makes this kind of money?
(exclude celebrity and sports related jobs)

lawyers in big firms?
plastic surgeons?

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