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[edited by: engine at 4:02 pm (utc) on May 24, 2006]
any plain old links that you have created on programs you've joined prior to june 23, will remain functional for a period of time (they said, I think, in the podcast that they'll give at least 6 months notice.) They call these "legacy links".
For programs joined after the 23rd, no straight links, not from a web page. It seems that you will be able to have plain links for use in PPC direct links and email from advertisers that allow that.
It's not clear to me whether we'll be able to generate new plain links after June 23 for pre-existing relationships.
That said this could have a silver lining for some.
I have countless specified text links pointing to my affiliate, all added by hand and tailored to each specific page.
The job of editing them all out by hand is a non-starter. Therefore my affiliate looks likely to enjoy plenty of quality targetted traffic that converts well - all free of charge!
That said this could have a silver lining for some.
Yes, I imagine the other affiliate networks are thrilled ;-)
Cheers,
BAD
It seems that you will be able to have plain links for use in PPC direct links and email from advertisers that allow that
If so, what can stop you from using the same links on a web page?
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If you click on Show you get a drop down list with two affiliate choices:
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This may be a sign that eBay is moving away from CJ. All of eBay's other affiliate tools only support CJ publishers, and now RSS support is their latest offering and it includes Mediaplex as an alternative.
Looks like Mediaplex may see much more action in the future. eBay support is notoriously lousy, so it wouldn't surprise me if they are unable to deliver tools that conform to the new CJ javascript requirement in time.
uhh, cj? (if they felt like it)
>> mediaplex
ebay has worked with Mediaplex for years, alongside CJ. Both are owned by ValueClick. I wouldn't read too much into that.
Interesting about Mediaplex... None of the other eBay affiliate tools that I use offer them as an option. Anyone have experience working with them?
I read my email on a web page. If CJ blocks web pages from using email affiliate links, then email affiliate links won't work at all for me.
I hadn't thought of that one. The links would work, but the publisher may technically be out of compliance.
It is here:
[jangro.com...]
I would appreciate it if the moderators didn't kill this link. I would also encourage everyone to sign it and let your voices be heard!
I visited their "link to us with our banner" page and sure enough, there was code for javascript links there, as well as some html links...and then it dawned on me...
The amount of power and control that you give up when you include someone else's javascript on your page is astounding! I am not ready to give anyone else that kind of authority over my site. No way.
What's the worst thing that they can do with power like that? The list is so long, I don't even know where to start...think about it.
I read my email on a web page. If CJ blocks web pages from using email affiliate links, then email affiliate links won't work at all for me.
I archive all of my newsletters with the affiliate links in them (straight from the HTML version) and link from the text version of the newsletter to the archived version.
I am not going to start making two versions of my newsletters for the sake of CJ - I'll just have to forsake their advertisers in favor of competitors.
Merchants and AMs that I know arent happy about this either, but hardly any of them have spoken out publicly against the issue. Unfortunately merchants (advertisers) seem to carry more weight with CJ.
We really NEED some merchants and affiliate managers to sign the petition and identify themselves as such. Affiliates, try to get your merchants to sign with a title and company name. It may help.
Linda
I'd go even one step further: very few high merchants carry more weight with CJ than all the rest combined. It's funny how without us, merchants won't do CJ any good.
At this point, I can only hope that CJ bombs, thsi way most merchants will move out of there. They seem to be beyond being saved. This is insane.
On June 23, 2006, JavaScript links will become Commission Junction’s default link type. However, we will continue to offer Legacy links through the beginning of 2007. The Legacy links will be available for all your advertiser relationships, including those joined to before and after June 23, 2006.
This makes more sense. Those who want to can get some experience with the java links and CJ can work out the bugs, which I am sure there will be some.
Send email to merchants, let them know how it will affect you, tell them how much sales revenue will have to start flowing outside CJ and suggest setting up on other networks.
There are some things that simply can't be done with JavaScript links. If they are going to switch to JavaScript, it should be for display advertising (banners) and for new rich media or video they may plan to roll out. Just don't make the text links or product level links exclusively JavaScript.
The interesting thing I see is that you apparently no longer have to be affiliated up with a merchant before June 23 to use their legacy links. That was one of the more ridiculous aspects of the policy being introduced.
Well they are coming around anyway - no change to legacy links during the 2006 holiday season.
By moving the date of the switch? How is that coming around? That's like Bush saying "okay, we promise not to invade Iraq during the summer holidays" - what's changed?
They'd already announced that legacy links would work well into 2007. This latest announcement is geared to simply "trick" affiliates into believing that something has changed when it hasn't. They just want us to stop moving away from CJ until they can work out a better press release for their move to javascript.
All this means is that affiliates will start signing up to CJ merchants again "thinking" that things are going back to normal only to slap them with no-more-html-available in August.
[webmasterworld.com...]
I think CJ realized, or will realize that this is one dumb move
The links are now live.
Oh boy!
I was trying to imagine why anyone would turn off javascript, and found a really good reason to, and so I'm doing some of my daily browsing with javascript disabled now.
One news site that I frequent uses javascript to force the focus onto a window when it finishes loading. If I have already moved on to another window, to continue working, that window that I opened previously jumps to the front, interrupting me and forcing me to type a shift-Tab to return to what I was doing. By disabling javascript the interruption problem goes away.
Nested Forms are illegal and should be avoided. Browsers won't necessarily render them correctly and the parent form tends to get submitted instead of the child.
I AM NOT impressed with the decision making ability at CJ.
Today is the 1st day so there are bound to be some bugs, although really a company of their size should have done more and better testing ESPECIALLY with all the negative PR, before releasing these new links.
If and when the Google CPA network is announced as official and comes out of beta, you can bet CJ they will be doing more to try to keep affiliates happy. (Note; I still use the word affiliate NOT publisher, although that seems to be what CJ wants ya'll to become.)
Linda
Time will tell on that one. What's been posted everywhere by lots of people, leave the html links as an option. If not, they're just hurting themselves and will lose business. Both merchants and affiliates want the html option, CJ's customers. What happens to businesses when they don't listen to their customers.
[edited by: skibum at 11:03 pm (utc) on June 23, 2006]
If and when the Google CPA network is announced as official and comes out of beta, you can bet CJ they will be doing more to try to keep affiliates happy.
Are they really even related? AdSense seems to be good for monetizing traffic for publishers, CJ for sites trying to make sales. Seems like they are at oppostite ends of the spectrum, though maybe a little closer if CJ goes all out with this new setup.
Can't imagine any good affiliate would swap in PPA AdSense ads for their current CJ links.
Can't imagine any good affiliate would swap in PPA AdSense ads for their current CJ links.
I might. I have some database powered sites where the new CJ links don't work?
But adsense works just fine.
Without this, I am essentially out of business, at least with CJ merchants.
