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Google Adwords cost per click data available?

         

kapow

1:54 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Is there a way to know what other companies are bidding per click on Adwords? Like the overture info that is available.

Mike_Mackin

2:13 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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NO

And what others are doing should not matter.

You choose to accept the "rate card" presented to you by adwords from their formula OR you can place an amount in the little box that is accepable to you and wait for the "rate card" to change. It may or may not change. But you can only pay what you can afford to pay.

webdiversity

2:22 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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And if you or your competitor writes better ads then the cost comes down because of the click through rate. This is the benefit often missed when people talk about high click through rates. Invariably if you can get double the click through rate of the next advertiser, they will likely have to be pay nearly double the amount you do to retain their position.

So think long and hard about the 25/35/35 (Title and Description) and don't waste the budget on unwanted visitors.

Mardi_Gras

2:28 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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And what others are doing should not matter.

What my competition is doing ALWAYS matters.

kapow

2:32 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Great advice - thankyou.

However, my client wants to know what the top listings are costing.

Hmmm, its a combination of max cost per click + CTR that gets an ad listed highly - isn't it? If so, then it is not possible to say what a position costs, ie: the position = budget x creativity.

Is that right?

webdiversity

4:45 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Pretty much.

The obvious benefit of having an ad in the top 3 is that your ad will get syndicated to show on AOL, so dependant on your model B2B or B2C it might be wortwhile to aim for a top 3.

There is also the averaging effect, whereby you might say to Google "I want to pay 50 cents and for that you suggets your ad might be in 3r place say. When you start to check you find a lot of the bids seem to be 80 cents and you wonder what has happened, did someone spill a drink on the server... What happens is Google will ensure that over the course of the month your average cost per click will be 50 cents, so you will get cheaper ads in due course.

On competitive keywords Google will show up to 10 ads per page, if you see a page for a search term with less than 10 ads then the cost for advertising shouldn't be too prohibitive.

However, there is also the old legacy Adwords advertisers to consider, which is why often you think you should pick up traffic cheaply but it says your minimum price is 60 cents. This is because the old CPM advertisers have contracts that need to be honoured and selling you CPC for less than this amount would give you preferential treatment.

Minefield or what!

Tropical Island

6:23 pm on Aug 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm in exactly that posistion. In order to cover one search term for the USA I must have a minimum bid of .43 and even though I have a CTR of more than 2.5% it does not go down. The rest of the world is .05 (except Japan) It's really well over our budget but by the end of the day the total clicks bring it down to a more reasonable level.