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Yahoo is Testing New Algo

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4:25 pm on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Results we monitor are looking very strange. Lots of uk, au, in and other worldly destinations mixed in with spammy garbage. Hardly seeing any US sites in results at all. Anyone else seeing this?
2:42 pm on July 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Lots of uk, au, in and other worldly destinations

For Yahoo, this is "normal". For several years now, results for "Pages from [country]" have included wrong country results. Complaints submitted to the Yahoo search group/forum have always resulted in complete denial and obstinance from yahoo employees.
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Our positions way up on multiple keywords. Looks like Yahoo is finally doing something right. More important, trying to figure out why. What's the pattern?
12:00 am on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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yahoo is broke and broke bad the seach engine can't even figure out what country to display.

I have seen a small sample of wrong country but nothing near this mess. The top 6-7 are all other country domains when I do a search now
12:49 am on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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The title they are displaying for my index page is the title from my RSS feed. Ridiculous.
6:28 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday seemed to go back to normal but now I am seeing this garbage again. Anyone else still seeing it?
6:28 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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yahoo is an absolute mess right now.

I love how some people say that "yahoo got it right" simply because there site ranks higher than it did before.

The fact is that yahoo is displaying poor results right now. That does not mean your site should not be performing well. Right now, a lot of sites are ranking high in yahoo that should not.
8:55 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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You know guys the only thing I can figure why yahoo is doing this is to increase the ppc spend as there is nothing I search for remotely related to what I am looking for other than the ppc ads.
9:02 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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That would be a pretty dumb tactic b/c the results they are serving up are sooo horrible that I am sure users are leaving and not staying to click on PPC ads.
9:03 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday seemed to go back to normal but now I am seeing this garbage again. Anyone else still seeing it?


Yeah, it's a mess again. Somebody turned on the automatic card shuffler again right before they clocked out for the day.

:rolleyes:
9:06 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Not sure what you guys are seeing, these results are great, finally all the spam sites are gone, all the sites that where #1 just for there domain name.
Now its more about content and backlinks
9:11 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Garya,
Are you looking at US results? They are the worst set of results I have ever seen.

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9:18 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yes, looking at us only, I have many sites and they rank very good on google and Bing, and now similar on yahoo. before the update we where all over the place on yahoo it was a mess.
9:23 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Garya and textex,

Yahoo is doing bucket testing. I've seen both indexes shown...the UK/AU stuff which is horrid for the US focus and the other index which looks a bit more like Bing/Google blend, dropping some of the older yahoo garbage.

I'm not sure what they're hoping to accomplish here. Just switch over to Bing and put this cat out of its misery.
9:32 pm on July 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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textex I was being sarcastic and just can't understand the mess.

hey off question you get that name cuz you once tried to text your ex?
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bwnbwn -- trying to make sense of it and albeit unlogical, your reasoning is the only push that seems logical. If they leave those results up, they will surely lose their user base quick.

textex = cat's name
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OK so its not only me I had a panic attack my site has completly dissapeared and not even indexed. I have been on page 1 I had noticed that yahoo had visited my site, does anyone know how long before the problem is rectified? I am loosing crediditability with my clients, not good for business.
2:01 am on July 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

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In our niche smaller focused quality sites now have the top rankings, whereas before it was larger sites focusing on a wider audience. Yahoo looks to be considering site focus more then it used to, also putting less weight on larger sites that tend to just buy loads of backlinks to manipulate rankings.

But it keeps switching on/off, the results are back to where they originally were now.
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I'm seeing flux back and forth as well. Big traffic coming from Asian points where Yahoo may be more widely used ... are others seeing this ?

It will be interesting to see what charateristics their algorithmn will settle on and how it will differ from Bing.
2:50 am on July 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

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If you will remember, ever big update started like this. The Google Florida comes to mind. That thing went crazy for several weeks before it settled down, and I got hosed from it. I lost numerous #1 rankings that had made me big $$$ for four years that got obliterated by Florida. I can't even stand to go to that state anymore because of it - lol!

Fortunately the Big Y is not the Big G, so at most we're only talking about a company that doesn't get out of the single digits when it comes to search volume. But I do enjoy some traffic from Yahoo, and I don't want to lose it.

With these new rollouts, I'm guessing they play around with applying different algos until they get just the right mix that they are looking for. Kind of like a chef creating a new recipe. It might taste crappy for the first few attempts.

However, even if they get a better search result than Google - are people ready to change search engines? Doubtful. But you never know... 11 years ago people were saying the same thing about Alta Vista when they were king, and the Big G took them by surprise.
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Alta Vista crashed and burned all by themselves...http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum1/713.htm
4:16 am on July 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Still toast from my end.
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So guys and gals - what is the consensus of the SEO brains of the forum? Does nobody really give a @#!% about Yahoo anymore? I'm surprised there is not more chatter about this on the forum.

What I'm seeing seems to be simply old results. I have a lot of sites linked to each other, and the old ones are doing well - but the new ones seem to be lost and forgotten for the most part.
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There is still no similarity found b/w bing and Yahoo.. does any body have their latest official news link? PM me or post here for reference. Some how my site is still receiving good traffic from Yahoo... how much max traffic u people have per day from Yahoo Search.
11:23 am on July 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Full 36 hours straight seeing these garbage results. This is just crazy.
1:44 pm on July 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

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From the markets I watch it seems that a lot of "thin" affiliate type sites have been removed from the top 10 and replaced by more merchants that sell the products directly and it also seems Wikipedia has gotten a boost as well (more than they usually get anyway)

Also, every morning for the past 3 days the old results have shown up then around noon my time until the evening the new results show.
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11:47 AM here in Florida and right on schedule the new results are showing in Yahoo.

This seems so crazy but 4 days in a row now around this time the results change.

I've even tried connecting through some remote VPN services to check from different regional IP's and the "new" results are showing as well.

Could it be something as simple as they are doing testing on the new algo during work hours and revert back at night?
12:34 pm on July 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo Japan announces [searchblog.yahoo.co.jp] their algo update. They're using YST run by Yahoo Inc. So the update must be affecting you, too.
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