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Will Yahoo drop your pages if you rank too high

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dauction

4:59 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The past 2 years I moved up from the backwoods to 12th out of 90 million ... sending google and it's advertisers some damn nice traffic ..

After finally reaching this point it looks like I've been banned to the backwoods ..nothing new at all except a 301 .htacess from www to non www in late sept

Could Yahoo be incorporating a variable that bans certain sites after they reach a certain rank and sending traffic that in actuallity is profiting google ..

or is parinoia creeping in and in reality yahoo cant handle a 301 correctly?

Cant get a reply from Y

That's the worst part..if something is wrong with the site just tell us so it can be fixed ..

deanril

6:59 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Definately hard to figure out whats going on over there. But I do see a trend. I can take some searches, do the -asdf .ca mx. and some of the results look very similar to google results(relevant).

So that tells me they are filtering, but why? And why filter and have the result equating to junk, crap results?

Serve up crap as a search engine and your cutting your own throat. Then on the low dollar keywords(ones no ones paying for (they just pop up if yahoo thinks the term is relevant for them.....) Ranking and relevantcy is still somewhat decent. However different from -asdf and .ca mx. but my site is showing up on these(the lost site).

To me it obvious, but could just be my bias because MY SITE has disappeared ;)

arubicus

9:27 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"To me it obvious, but could just be my bias because MY SITE has disappeared"

Actually putting aside my bias I can see that the results have taken a down turn. From what I have seen on some keywords on a friends site that they have the same "filter" problem. Which is fine for him but what sites have filtered "up" comes down to alot, I mean alot, of doorway pages and relatively on topic junk. Many of the sites I have found also have barely a mention of a group of keywords.

I spotted quite a few that have but only one term on their page showing up for a 3 word keyphrase. These sites are barely on topic if and barely of use to a searcher. Trying to figure out why these sites rank I even checked backlinks and they have just a few. I mean literally 3 or less external and 1 or 2 internal. How they are ranking is beyond me. My friends site is one of the largest on topic authority little if not any SEO and many strong backlinks.

From what I understand Yahoo put a filter in place a couple of months back then did another quick update (probably a tweak). Ever since they did this I have seen many of mid sized authority get dumped and bumping up huge corporate sites (amazon, wiki, bhg, ebay, hgtv, lots of directories...) peppered with junk barely on topic pages coming from off topic sites.

To be fair I do notice that some pages with hardly any backlinks and hardly if not no SEO raise up in rankings. These pages are quite on topic but written in more of a "natural language". I was pleased to see some of these in the results rather than over SEOd sites. There are some keyword I follow that seems to have brought back some highly relevant sites which is a good thing also.

I would like to know or get some ideas on what they may be looking at in the way of filtering. Oh...I did notice that yahoo is not showing the most relevant pages but rather pages that link to the most relevant pages which is interesting.

deanril

9:54 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting stuff!

My interest are, how long can they continue to serve this up? I mean ive seen google do something similar a few times but they always revert back after a brief period. This has been going on for like 6 months!

Unbelievable! I really can't see how the in-charge folks over there can honestly say this stuff is useful or even close to being relevant for the term searched for. Its almost like they dont have a clue....

Its just shocking to see a huge company make such an obvious blunder........

afterburner

6:21 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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deanril,
I did what you told me and my pages are all in Yahoo. My main keyword phrase density is around 8.4 to 9.4%, maybe that is just too high? Any ideas?
Thanks
afterburner

arubicus

7:12 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have seen top ranking sites on yahoo with densities from 1.2% - 12% But for the most part (and it depends on keywords) I am seeing that yahoo favors a range of 1.0% - 4%. I am seeing more heavy SEO'd (keywords in many tags like title, meta description, meta keywords, h tags, urls, anchor, bold...) ranking lower. Also heavy densities seem to rank lower. But of course this is just from observing a small sample. Anyone else see anything to this effect?

soapystar

6:24 pm on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i see yahoo now allow there own pages to take two of the top listings for money searches....used to be just one optimised page per top ten money spot....of course im talking open serps not the planted links at the top....
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