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I believe technically they would have had to have had an algorithm before it can be said one has changed."Show a random collection of crap" is not an algorithm...
Couldn't agree with you more!
But to answer the Yahoo update questions....A weather report exists...
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Seems like that lately but also seems like they are really working at making it better. I am hoping they are just ever fluxing a bit like G and will settle again.
I got email responses from both MS and Yahoo regarding the dismal ranking in their serps, they both say check that i am within webmaster guidlines.
Aaaaaugggghhhhhh!
Google, Yahoo and MSLive all set these guidlines, we get sucked into trying to comply, get bounced into the dark end of the serps and then almost all top ten have titles like Buy widget/Free Widget/New Widget/Heres another ^%$@@ Widget/
I mean repeat keywords like 4 times in title and that is within guidlines? Ok, back to grey hat.
The other thing is they may be fighting an ongoing battle detecting the redirects,cloaking,link farms,DNS poisoning, etc....so even though they improve there is and endless supply of spaggetti being tossed at the wall.
They do, however, pretty much outline how to get to the top 10 if you are selling pretty much anything...
1. Have an ebay store (ebay has GOT to be paying these engines for all this organic traffic). Even their search queries are showing up.
2. Create hundreds/thousands of splogs with links back to your site (one competitor has over 10000 fake blogs - explains how he came from no where to #1 in 3 months time)
3. Have a site that has said "?hAcKed!?@" on it's main page for the last year - yet STILL ranks in the top 10.
4. Be a comparision shopping engine (again - these guys have GOT to be paying for these kinds of listings).
5. Use rpetty much all the old tired/outdated spam SEO that Google no longer falls for ;-)
4. Be a comparision shopping engine (again - these guys have GOT to be paying for these kinds of listings).
Funny thing is - they probably are. Examine the click-through URL's, and if they contain rdrw1.yahoo.com or rdre1.yahoo.com, they're Yahoo Search Submit Pro listings. If not, they're plain old natural listings.
Examine the click-through URL's, and if they contain rdrw1.yahoo.com or rdre1.yahoo.com, they're Yahoo Search Submit Pro listings.
AHA! That's a good point right there! That makes them look so bad I think. No wonder, that does make sense now! They'll die like that, I betchya any money that Yahoo will just keep going down with sleezy methods like that. Users don't know what's paid and what's not...that will bite them in the rear, mark my words on that one! People simply will switch because there is no trust and the results SUCK. Heck yea, eBay can rule Yahoo as they have the $$$ to do so. Users are sick of ads now...shoving them up there butt on the sly isn't going to help Yahoo's already-waning reputation. I know they've been doing that for a while, but man they SUCK...and that explains it IMHO.
Do you believe in Duplicate Content penalty and Yahoo. I don't. 1 Site has 3 domains pointing to the same exact content. All indexed in Yahoo. All 3 domains rank randomly.
I have a keyword reach domain that outranks my main site for the most important keyword phase. That site has 1 page for the past 3 years.
No?, Really.
I went from the #5 spot on the first page one evening, to #44 spot on page 5, for no apparent reason.
Most of my competitors are in the same spot, but a few went south with me.
Hope after the update, I go back to where I was.
Without monetization the "Crap" will just die off and no search engine will have to deal with it.
Then they shall execute 3 thru 97 after they show Ebay a great Holiday Season. This particular tactic covers two bases - Identify the spammers - kill them thoroughly - send Ebay a higher than normal amount of visitors - but Ebay probably won't know how they did it - except that they will be thankful and award a bigger slice to Yahoo and see if they can continue to perform for them well - but they won't be able to - but it will make them shine for a while - and 45 days after Dec 25 you will see some Yahoo Directors selling some chunks of stock to capitalize on the short-term, in fear that the long-term may not be as flowery - but I'm not saying they are going to unload all - but I want to write this here so that we see just what happens.
We recently redesigned a site, went from tabled layout to table-less. Not that this had anything to do with it.
Dropped to #26 last month, previously #6 for our major keyword combo.
Today we're #3 page one, and several other suffering keywords are happily on page two. No spam tactics, just customer-designed content.
Tomorrow, who knows.