Mr Yahoo took us out of serp again :(

Tried everything but still lost....

[dupac]

"Yahoo quit playing games with my site :)"

Website wasn't in serp from Feb, then it came back for a month and now its not in serp again for past 2 months.
I have sent emails, filled online yahoo search complain forms, made changes in site, added new content, optimize the page according to yahoo specification to webmaster but stil Mr Yahoo doesnt like my site.

things i am doing right now
1) Creating the RSS feed to submit to yahoo
2) Writing more original content
3) Getting links from relevant sites
4) Getting up in morning and praying to see my ste in yahoo serp

I am open to any suggestion from you guru's
Anyone from yahoo if you read this, please show some path which leads to happy land.

Sun--My site----Pluto.....Another galaxy-- Yahoo Serp

I need my site and yahoo serp overlapping each other :)

D

[twebdonny]

>>>>things i am doing right now
1) Creating the RSS feed to submit to yahoo
2) Writing more original content
3) Getting links from relevant sites
4) Getting up in morning and praying to see my ste in yahoo serp <<<<<

Number 5 : Wasting Your Time

[dupac]

twebdonny- Can you enlighten me then what I should be doing?
Any suggestions will be helpful

[WebPixie]

There's nothing wrong with adding an RSS feed, original content or getting links from related sites. But if you are doing it only to rank in Yahoo then you might well be wasting your time. Build your site for visitors, use basic/clean SEO tactics and forget about gaming Yahoo. Your time is better spent improving your site so the people that do find it will comeback/convert. If you do that, hopefully Yahoo will reward you eventually.

If they don't, then at least you'll have an improved site. If you just spend your time trying to game Yahoo, you might well end up still getting no love from Y! and have an overly SEO'd site that's no better if not worse for your visitors.

[JimHo]

I don't know Webpixie - it doesn't sound like he's trying to "Game" Yahoo, only trying to figure out why he was dropped from the serps.

There seems to be a lot of sites that are not officially dropped from Yahoo search (i.e a search for site:www.mysite.com turns up more than the index page), but have been penalized out of the top 100 or top 1000 results for a particular term that they used to rank well for.

There are a lot of web site owners out there that believe they have a clean site, and don't understand the trigger that is hurting them in Yahoo. If there were communication, then most would probably address the issue.

And yes, I am in the same boat. I have wrestled on and off again with this issue since March, 2005. I would attempt to fix something that was seen as gaming the system if I knew what it was...

[edited by: JimHo at 8:36 pm (utc) on Aug. 29, 2006]

[idolw]

dont waste your time on yahoo. do it for G

[RocketDaddy]

I have been looking at the recent Yahoo modifcations, specifically related to financial terms and I notice that many of the smaller companies are missing. There seems to be a mix of 800 lb gorillas and spam. Any ideas what they changed this time around?

[carminejg3]

was all over yahoo, until we paid once for the search service, after that have been out for a few years....

good thing they are still lost over there.

[seodirect]

One of my sites has been up over 1 year. Ranking well in Google and MSN. Dropped though, from Yahoo last month. Completely.

This site is an entertainment site and, as with every other entertainment site out there, it shares 'sitewide' links with a number of other sites. This is not spam, this is simply how entertainment sites link to each other.

But I am not about to drop this entirely just because it is the only thing in Yahoo I can think of that is wrong.

By the way, I did send several e-mails, online forms to Yahoo. Their replies range from 'There is no reason you should have been dropped' to 'Maybe you want to try our paid service'.

I am a non-eCommerce site that is making a bit of money with Adsense and ads. How would I possibly benefit from buying placement when it would cost me a gazillion bucks for those top keywords that are 450k/month in overture?

Don't think so.

[andrewshim]

There seems to be a lot of sites that are not officially dropped from Yahoo search (i.e a search for site:www.mysite.com turns up more than the index page), but have been penalized out of the top 100 or top 1000 results for a particular term that they used to rank well for.

yes. seven polite attempts later to get someone in Y! to tell me what I may be doing wrong, nobody has bothered to answer.

don't waste your time on yahoo. do it for G

I hate to admit it but I think it's true. The problem with Y! is that there is no pattern. You might just be wasting time... unless they change for the better.

[andrewshim]

reading my last post, I think I need to be objective and say that when I DID get traffic from Y! (although not substantial compared to G!), it WAS very targetted.

It's just too bad Homepages that go missing one week, then replaced with internal pages the next week and then back again is just too unpredictable for anyone serious about SEO to rely on. And we're talking about homepages with minimal changes.

[kamikaze Optimizer]

dupac: I feel your pain. I have a very large Google PR8 site with great links (cbs.com, nytimes.com, wsj.com etc, etc,) which also ranks very high in MSN.

However, for two years now it keeps bouncing in and out of Yahoo.

So I say, screw Yahoo. The serps are awful and the general public knows it. Stop wasting your time worrying about it and move on. You can not do anything about it and your not missing any traffic anyhow.

You should focus on good content and keep your eye on MSN/LIVE, thats the horse to watch, not Yahoo.

[andrewshim]

However, for two years now it keeps bouncing in and out of Yahoo.

So I say, screw Yahoo. The serps are awful and the general public knows it. Stop wasting your time worrying about it and move on. You can not do anything about it and your not missing any traffic anyhow.

ditto

[marketingmagic]

double dito!

[soapystar]

is there a search engine with good results?...i think the days of search engines as we knew them are gone forever..

[luckychucky]

My personal story: I don't merely rank highly on Google for a great many competitive terms, I rank number one. A few keywords I'm top-3, but most, number one and I sit there unmoveable like a 400 pound gorilla for months on end, like a little king of those serps. That's how much Google likes me.

Where am I on Yahoo!? Zero. I don't even exist there. I mean I don't show up at all. Go figure. In terms of search relevancy I am hands-down the most relevant site on the Net by far, for those specific keyword searches. Google knows it but in Yahoo!'s eyes I simply don't exist.

And yes, I bid keywords on Overture/Yahoo Search Marketing. I've drawn no conspiracy conclusions but believe you me, I wouldn't put it past 'em.

[soapystar]

ive seen something like this for a major major two word phrase.....google seems to like the links this site bought and the the links its obtained from sponsoring sites...yahoo doesnt seem to give any weight to these links at all!

[Viper64]

I would suggest that you try NOT submitting the feed to yahoo and if you're in site explorer, delete it from there. I've had the exact same thing happen to me right after adding my site to site explorer. Slurp continues to do it's thing but only the index page is in Yahoo. So I'll be deleting my site from site explorer and crossing my fingers.