'New' Yahoo, Very Old Database

URLs, domains in SERPs over a year old?

[rankme]

Yahoo Mike-
Would really help us all to have an understanding of this new Yahoo db.

There are URLs appearing for my client that are over a year old. Pages were 301s for march-april 2003. Pages are permanent re-directs through htaccess file siince april 2003.

There are also 2 domain names showing up for the exact same pages? After Jan 2004, this should be theoretically impossible- domain names were unparked and given permanent redirects through htaccess, specifically to avoid this. Could lead to penalty?

These URLs seem to be inherited from inktomi?

Also seems that inktomi penalty that comes and goes (high rankings february, low-no rank april)is active in yahoo as well?

I see 'yahooseeker 1.0' in the stats, but with low hits. Also see yahooseeker coming from shop/merchant. Low crawls related to a possible penalty? Site ranks high on google and is spidered regularly.

The results I'm seeing seem very stale. Old penalty that all engines had lifted. URLs that haven't existed in over a year. Domains names showing up that shouldn't be showing up.

How new is the new index, really? Is it a mixture of newly spidered and very old? Is there an estimated target date for 'out with the old, in with the new'? When it comes to Search, a year is more like dog years...

I've seen these topics touched upon in other threads, but I haven't seen a solid answer. Point the way, anyone, if this is redundant and answered.

Thanks!

[jrs_66]

Yahoo has acknowledged their lack of ability in handling redirects. They claim it will be fixed soon (but who believes them). It seems difficult to believe that in 2004, yahoo can't deal with this yet. I guess it points out how far behind the curve they are.

[rankme]

I'd like a definitive answer about these redirects.

There are several ways to 'redirect'...301,302,domain, etc.

Is Yahoo having a problem with any sort of 'redirect'?
That seems highly unlikely.

Yahoo Mike, can you delineate the known issues with this more specifically? It would help us understand where the problems with our SERP rankings may lie, and will hopefully reduce the frantic posts.

This seems to be affecting *a lot* of sites. And renders the Yahoo listings of questionable value to surfers. Seems counter-productive to Yahoo's being able to capture google market share...

[2_much]

Hi rankme there have been probably hundreds of mentions in this forum over the redirect issue, Yahoo Mike and Tim have stated at various times that they are working on a fix for this. It's a big problem for a lot of people but I know they are addressing the issue.

[rankme]

It seems my reading comprehension skills leave something to be desired, 2_much

Is it correct assumption, then, that
redirect 'issues'---> 'penalty'?

Trying to sort out if low, low SERPs is an archaic Ink ban resurfaced, or a result of current algo snags. Don't want to hassle Y for re-inclusion if there isn't really an unwarranted ban/penalty currently in place.

For now, I'll assume that redirects are yielding low SERPs and at the root of a lot of the questions here.

[steveb]

"Is it correct assumption, then, that redirect 'issues'---> 'penalty'?"

Of course not. That's what he just repeated (for probably the 100th time). They are having a problem. They are working on a fix.