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6:37 pm on Dec 4, 2018 (gmt 0)

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WordPress 5.0 will be released on December 6, 2018, with RC 5.0 available now.

I think I'll wait, just in case. What will you do?

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This weekend I attended WordCamp 2018 here in Toronto, a one day Wordpress education event. Of course, the Gutenberg editor was front and center. While WP core seems to be ok, all the plugins that you use may not play nice. There are other issues to be very concerned about. I am with you: wait.

This is a major update of the complete editor that also affects themes and plugins. Caution is urged.

No known bugs in WP core: [core.trac.wordpress.org...] but unknown for plugins.

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Oh yes, plugins, too. So much to consider and a hurry up and wait stance from me.
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>>RC 5.0 available now.

Wordpress 5, RC 1, that is. The current release candidate is the first and apparently the last. They pushed everything back a bit because of US Thanksgiving.

>>Gutenberg

A lot of people hate it, but I suspect most people will like it. I've been playing with it for a while and it's not bad. It solves some problems and, at least in my experience, does not create many. One persistent problem that people mention is that the autosave continually fails and the manual save often too. Many problems associated with Cloudflare, but I've had issues regardless.

So I think most people should wait until 5.1 before jumping in with both feet.

I'm not sure what Gutenberg impacts on plugins and themes will be. I actually think it's minimal. I have already rolled Gutenberg out on two sites and had not a single hiccup with a theme or a plugin. Because Gutenberg rolled out separately, it has had pretty extensive testing. Even plugins that haven't been updated since the Gutenberg release work fine for me.

If you look at a page that has been edited with Gutenberg, it's basically the same as before except with a *ton* of comments. Essentially, every Gutenberg block is delimited by a comment. So only plugins/themes that either have trouble handling the comments or that modify the HTML and do not take account of the comments should be impacted by Gutenberg directly.

As to other changes in WP5, I'm mostly ignorant. Been focused on other things and haven't tried it yet or looked into what changes are happening at the API level.
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The big Wordcamp convention in the US is in Nashville Dec 07-09 2018 is this weekend, and I believe they want Gutenberg released for this event.

Gutenberg now chunks up your text into blocks. you can save a block of text and/or formatting so you can use it in another post in the future. That is useful for, example, a call to action that you wish to deploy over numerous pages. Once written and deployed to numerous pages if you want to make a change to these pages you can make a single change. Or that is the theory. There are certainly advantages of the Gutenberg blocking, but I have yet to play with it.

Thanks for the additional info on 5.0. I will wait until my theme writer releases an update, after which I will test if my child theme has survived.
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Gutenberg sort of reminds me of the old Vcom (c. 2004) release of Webeasy Pro text drag and drop, or even the much older IXLA (c. 2001) Webeasy Pro out of Australia back in the day. -- Not real sure what to make of it. I've got clients that are pretty comfortable with their js_composer's and I'm wondering how it'll play out if they suddenly decide to make the switch.

Drag-n-Drop is fine I guess if you're all off into Wix and the like, but then again on the bright side, ex Drag-n-Droppers account for roughly 12% of my business directly so at least there's that - This whole Gutenberg deal just might turn out to be a real boon for us.
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Gutenberg isn't really drag and drop like a page builder (like Elementor).
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They should focus more on improving their ridiculous database management and speed the whole thing !
Who care all their stupid "improvements" when what we really need is speed ! Especially for woocommerce !
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What improvements would you make for the database and/or data modeling?

I have one on my wish list: stop using such massive amounts of serialized data. It is one of the things I hate about WP. It has its place, but WP depends way too much on serialized data. Normalize your tables and make everything simpler (except some queries, obviously). I think that would speed things up too because the indexing would be more robust

I also wish they enforced plugin cleanup more. I like the Drupal model: deactivate -> uninstall -> delete. Not that the Drupal modules always do a good job of cleaning up their data, but with WP, I have to run Delete and once I do, if things don't work out, the plugin code is gone and has to be re-added to the file system.

Those two aspects of WP data management drive me crazy and, more generally, the habit of storing absolute URLs. It would be so much easier to push from dev to test to production if they used root relative URLs. They could still *render* as absolute on the page, but why in the world would you *store* them as absolute?

Those are my big complaints with the WP data model, but no way is that going to change. Everything would break.
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exactly !
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What's be helpful is to hear feedback from anyone that's updated to 5.0, and of their experience so far, or are we all waiting?
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waiting...
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... hear feedback from anyone that's updated to 5.0


There's a plugin for that --- Always best to try it all out on your own, which I did, before the phone calls start coming in from others ---
Installed the plugin and moved along my merry way. [wordpress.org...]

Other than the fact that Gutenberg is pretty much baked into the system itself and was/is seemingly difficult to turn off, we're fine -- Had a captcha plugin that threw a fit (white screen) but once I disabled the builder all was well with the world. Plugin authors have known about this update build for a while now so there shouldn't really be any valid excuse not to have updated their stuff by now.

5.0 runs fine (with updated plugins) -- Emails sent out encouraging the update this morning with the download link for the gutenburg plugin link included if needed. We'll see -- I shut the block editor completely off on my stuff however - I just don't have the time (or possibly even the attention span) to deal with forced builds like this one.

As always, you should back up your db/site before doing the upgrade --
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sorry, but how do you shut the block editor completely off ? thanks.
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Many options turned up in a quick Google search....

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[digwp.com...]
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I think Gutenberg is good for the newbies who love a drag and drop builder interface but for the others, Gutenberg is not good.

If you want like me desactivate Gutenberg, simply had this trick in functions.php file of the theme

//Desactivate Gutenberg
add_filter('use_block_editor_for_post', '__return_false');
6:30 am on Dec 12, 2018 (gmt 0)

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yes, it's so easy to deactivate it, I wonder why people make a drama about it ?!
1:48 pm on Dec 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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The platform updated to 5.01 and the plugin to shut Gutenberg off had an update ready for it.
So far, the plugin to turn Gutenberg off is the primary choice for those who don't know anything about .php this or .php that --
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FYI, here the news of WordPress 5.01, which is a security release, fixing at least seven bugs, some serious.


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Here the download link
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