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Mossberg: XP is a sort of Trojan horse

         

rcjordan

10:43 pm on Sep 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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All in all, Windows XP is the best operating system Microsoft has ever produced. But the company's ferocious drive to dominate the digital world mars its masterpiece.
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PageCount

6:05 am on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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"The company has also turned Windows XP into a sort of Trojan horse. It has built in a bunch of "features," such as instant messaging, online photo printing and a "passport" to the Web, that are just blatant efforts to lure consumers into using a set of new Web-based services Microsoft is launching, while ignoring alternative services that may be better. The goal seems to be to trap users in a sort of Microsoft company store."

Why did nobody warn us of this? This is Plug and Pay with a vengeance. It's horrible. How on earth could they get away with it?

caine

9:18 am on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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because MS is the perfect cloaker, delivers one view, and comes in the back door and presents its view of digital domination by Billy-boy-gates

Brett_Tabke

9:55 am on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>How on earth could they get away with it?

It's the tip of the coming iceberg PageCount. Power is accumulated in bad economic times by those strong enough to weather the storm. To me, that means that while the rest of the computer sector goes through it's shakeout, Microsoft will move more aggressively than ever before. Throw in the fact that within a short time frame the MS vs DOJ will be settled with MS getting a slap on the wrist at most, and I expect MS to be bolder than ever.

Although XP will be a 'push' in that it will be slow to take off, I expect it to slowly be adapted as the standard OS. There are enough things proprietary about it, that hardware and software will evolve to become 'xp only' propositions.

I have to give Mosberg credit though, comparing XP to a trojan horse is accurate and a welcome description.

PageCount

10:00 am on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Yip. Masters of the Cyberverse. But who are we to spoil their party? Let them enjoy it while it lasts.

I just don't know how long I can wait for the bonfire of their vanities :).

PageCount

10:16 am on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, Brett, I was penning the little ditty above as you posted.

"Microsoft knows that focusing your energies on beating your enemy can be short sighted and self-defeating. To not lose sight of the long-term goal, Microsoft has looked at and analyzed the broader picture.

Its vision is to be the world’s largest and most innovative IT company. If e-commerce does not get off the ground, the PC will remain little more than a glorified play station and word processor with Web access.

By taking ownership of the processes that kick start e-commerce, Microsoft achieves two things.

Most satisfying to the money mogul lurking in our entrepreneurial folk hero will be the beating given AOL. Second to that, Microsoft will control e-commerce facilitation through hardware and software dominance.

Bill Gates and his legions of lawyers are going to drag us into high-revenue generating e-commerce and the twenty first century whether we like it or not.

In doing so, he will further entrench his domination of operating systems and browsers. By claiming the Net, he will move the platform on which his OS works onto the Web. He will, in a sense, have his way with all of us."

12 June 2001

Yes, I agree with you. When I think of the huge chunk of text, the inordinate bandwidth, and the patience of all those I've tried in these forums as I've ranted and raged through what has, at times, been a personal crusade against Microsoft, I smile.

The outcome was beyond doubt from the start. Love 'em or loathe 'em, they're damned good at whatever it is they do.

And now that XP is on us, the average end user will wake up to realize it. The upside is that, sooner or later, the 'Beast of Redmond' will have to take on the market.

And, as we all know, in the end, the market always wins :).

toolman

12:53 pm on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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One thing to remember is that Linux may very well be poised to take a HUGE chunk of the business market because of the virtue that it is free. The versatility of being both a stable desktop and server combined with applications like Star Office and Mysql can ultimately arise to the needs of the business customer without the obligatory 5000-300000+ dollar license fees that burden small businesses now.

I think IBM made a smart move in supporting Linux.

GWJ

3:06 pm on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)



Why did nobody warn us of this?

I have been reading about the battle with Kodak for a few months prior to release. I want to say it was on zdnet I believe.

Brian

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3:17 pm on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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We still have to give M$ credits for this. They finally produced a stable OS. All the rest before was just Mac-mimmick-candy-coating-over-DOS-that-made-it-crash-with-a-couple-of-"innovations"-borrowed-here-and-there.

john316

3:26 pm on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>>One thing to remember is that Linux may very well be poised to take a HUGE chunk of the business market because of the virtue that it is free.<<

Linux could win big time if they toned down the geek talk. When a marketer comes up with some decent language to use in describing Linux that the average user can understand it will have a good shot.

Right now it all reads like greek, "this distribution can be configured with the KDE or Gnome on complilation, X windows..blah, blah.." Who in the world even understands this stuff?

How about an AOL type distribution? Just dump the CDs everywhere you can think of with packaging that says. "FREE COMPUTER UPGRADE! Just run this CD on any any windoze machine to greatly improve its performance!"

rcjordan

4:45 pm on Sep 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

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As previously reported by CNET News.com, Microsoft on Oct. 1 will dramatically change how it licenses software to its largest customers. That change will drive up what they pay for products such as Office XP or Windows 2000 between 33 percent and 107 percent, according to market researcher Gartner.
Many customers also are finding they have to buy new versions of Office even to qualify for the new licensing program.
Microsoft customers balk at license changes [news.cnet.com]