Anyone found the holy grail for submissions yet?

I've tried everything!

[DaveAtIFG]

I used Addweb for a good while, graduated(?) to DumpTruck as my needs increased and became more sophisticated, currently using one of Brett's scripts.

I run Win from one home based machine for all my work and would like to find a program I can run from here... Over the past few days, I've searched through Tucows and ZDNet and there's a herd of new (to me) offerings. I read about many, downloaded the trial on a few, found that ALL I looked at "submit 'til ya puke." I want something that I can stick a thousand URLs into and it will submit five or ten per day (owner selectable of course!) and look like a browser doing it... Not too much to ask... And I actually bought a program that will do this but the supported engines are too limited and it's immature code and rough, not just around the edges...

So has anybody found anything close? Or a jewel that you can't live without? Remember, we share around here! Help!!!

[Brett_Tabke]

I've returned to a great deal of hand submission. I was under the impression AV was either tracking by cookies, headers, or referrals. Now I see they may just be that bad at submission at the moment. I don't know if it is worth risking to programmed submission anymore. With the fuss over Ink, the single page nature of fast and google, what is there left to submit in mass that requires programmed? Not much.

[DaveAtIFG]

My list is:
AV
Anzwers (for non Position Tech pages, habit)
DH
EX
Fast (I'm having good luck with both index page and cloaked sub pages)
Goog (same here without cloaking)
Lycos
Magellan (I got a lot of bad habits!)
NL
WhatUSeek

In conjunction with good directory listings, I'm doing well with four sites using these, so far. It's fairly inexpensive for the volume of traffic, and cost effective/profitable for both mine and my clients sites. As I acquire clients, I could use something more convenient.

[littleman]

The thing about auto submission is that you gotta do what the browser does. I think I pretty much got it all worked out. I come in with natural and veritable schedules to the SEs. I also am very careful about what IPs I come from. You could get LWP to accept and dish out cookies and yet have it strip out the cookies after every use. It took me forever to get that right but its been working for the last year now. Header and referrer information should look right too, but this is also entirely possible.

[DaveAtIFG]

I'm not convinced cookies et al even matter. I've been auto submitting once a month for over a year with no bad side effects using DT or Brett's script.

The pages submitted are all "originals", no doorways, and submissions are limited to 5 URLs from each domain per 24 hours per engine. I just use a one second delay between submits, nothing elaborate. Start submissions the first of each month for 10-12 days. I'm probably staying well below the spam threshold.

I've said it before, I didn't know I couldn't do this ;)

Seriously, it works for me but it's awkward with DT and with Brett's script I have to arrange the submit order in the input data file, it's better then DT but not ideal. I could create a script to arrange the input data or revise Brett's script but time (and my scripting talent and the time needed to improve it) is limited.

[mivox]

I personally use selfpromotion.com. They've automated submission to almost all SEs and most minor directories. If you pay the subscription fee (cheap, IMO), you can use the multisubmitter, which allows a bunch of URLs to be submitted, one per day, to the major SEs.

You do have to enter the URLs by hand, and you can't schedule it to automatically run for you.... it may not be a 'deluxe' enough service for your needs, but it works great for me.

[GWJ]

Question, I see Brett's script referenced several times. Where is this located? I did a fast look at SEW but I didn't see it.

Brian

[rcjordan]

>Brett's script

"The Collective" was closed down, Brian. No telling how many old copies are out there being maintained by individuals, but Brett couldn't support it and the forum, too.

[DaveAtIFG]

mivox - Thanks for the suggestion! I used selfpromotion.com several years ago, my first attempt at promoting my first site, signed up for a year and was pleased with the results. I've feel I've outgrown it now, the volume I need to submit makes it impractical. Ironically, I suggested it to a beginner in another thread a month or so back. :)

[mivox]

Understood. It really isn't ideal for someone with a lot of sites under constant promotion. Since I've got very few sites I deal with, it's perfect.

[GWJ]

Thanks rcjordan.

Brian