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The various webmasters who post under this head have no obligation to share their URL ( as per WW TOS) with us and consequently we have lot of misinformation that comes up.
All members try to guess at the reason and their guessing game can create major problems for us, new members. Not all information that is disseminated is correct and guesses can really go wild.
I feel such posts should be pre reviewed by moderators or selected senior members before publishing. The website of the poster should be properly pre scanned by the moderator before allowing such posts. Rest of us can thus be sure that prima facie the poster did nothing wrong and can then proceed with our analysis.
This way of working 'blind' in such serious cases is not a good idea.
What do you guys think?
I have to completely agree. It can create problems for us "old" members, too.
I have become paranoid after reading :
" I got banned for doing nothing wrong " kind of
posts.
There's no way to know or verify what was or wasn't done, nothing productive can be accomplished, and all those do is create a negative environment and make many people either nervous, frightened or hostile.
If they were at least combined and all kept confined to one thread as a compromise, people who hate them would more easily be able to ignore it.
I sometime read two or three of those kind of posts and honestly dread to try to log in to my account LOL
And I really don't need the stress this creates so I am all for someone checking the stories out...some of them might be nothing more than trolls trying to stir things up but we have no way of knowing.
Ann
1. I was banned. I did nothing wrong
2. Poor you, write to Google
3. Hey, are you the person advocating this scam?
4. Silence from the original poster and the WW Jackals descend to feast on the carcass
Exactly! There's enough stress we have to deal with in life that can't be avoided (health issues, plumbing problems, car repairs, missing out on good sales at the malls, and having to do housew*rk, for a few) without getting involuntarily pounded with more stress, most of which is for the most part useless and unresolvable.
>I really like them. I admit they are getting a bit predictable now:
Very predictable, and repetitive too, though admittedly occasionally there may be a funny one (though not funny to the person it happened to).
So for people like you who like them, you could have them all in one thread, where everyone could slug it out collectively.
>Moderators need to review such posts before allowing them to be published.
Well, that would involve having it a pre-moderated forum, so they're caught before going public and sucking people in.
How about a fairly detailed FAQ being made available for common issues that come up? That certainly could be a collaberative project done voluntarily by the many seasoned,helpful people around here.
The same issues seem to come up repeatedly, including those concerning the disenfranchised dumpees, and in a spirit of compassion, having a central repository of simply written FAQs with pertinent information made available for them would help troubled poople or those seeking basic knowledge for starting out tremendously, and possibly avoid repetitions ad nauseum so that the emphasis and focus would be more on maintaining an environment of positive input and movement toward growth.
[edited by: Marcia at 9:12 am (utc) on May 8, 2006]
frankly I'd rather see WW ban the "I've been banned" threads and direct their posters to a FAQ
Silence from the original poster and the WW Jackals descend to feast on the carcass
Hasn't happened in a long time.
I'm surprised it hasn't been noticed that pro-active moderation has been applied to address this issue within the last few months.
This thread is several months too late. All of these issues have been addressed, resolved, end of story.
I challenge anyone to point to the last Banned thread that was allowed to go on to a bloody resolution, then list the url for the one before that.
Virtually all of them NEVER get that far.
My train of thinking on this issue is, we need to let a thread run it's course, we can't tar everyone with the same brush. Even if a story sounds suspicious, we will never really know, people have the right to ask questions, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
There are instances when a thread really isn't productive, in these instances it will be removed.
I challenge anyone to point to the last Banned thread that was allowed to go on to a bloody resolution
Mack.
Really.. I did not notice .. sorry .. I joined less than a couple of months back and must have read atleast four " I got banned threads". They may be off the forum now, but the information / misinformation has already spread to the " active " members..
That is why the paranoia has come to stay...
Not to say that the moderators are not doing a great job...
But maybe this specific issue can be dealt with differently..
Next!
Onya
Woz
I'm surprised it hasn't been noticed that pro-active moderation has been applied to address this issue within the last few months.
I had noticed it, but didn't say anything because the TOS say we're not allowed to comment on moderator actions.
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martinibuster, I am yet to find a friendlier forum and I am not a forum fequenter (for lack of a better word), and that says a lot, no need to be defensive as the efforts are well felt and appreciated.
Back on topic, yes, they do create a tense environment and each is usually followed by 2 or 3 panicky how do we protect ourselves threads.
one doesn't have to read the threads one does not like
Not for everyone. It's sometimes possible for some to choose not read, but quite compelling to satisfy curiosity - result, on a repeated basic, is unnecessary stress.
>>one doesn't have to read the threads one does not like
Very true, but it is, however, impossible to avoid reading the titles when scanning a forum to select what to read - and unsettling nevertheless, even when resisting reading, just knowing what's there.
The bottom line is distinguishing between what's nourishing and what's toxic - *whatever* it may be - with strong emphasis on the "whatever" part.
I do read them though, to see what I could learn and to know that google is protecting the AdSense publishers and it's service from a few bad apples.
At first I was miffed my the $100 "get paid" thershold. If a newbie is going to scam in some way I am sure they can't contain their exuberance. G checks them out when the money is due and if anything seems off-color they ban them at that point, keep the money and return the "bad click" money to the advertisers.
Think of how many people are getting banned and how much money they are confiscating. Ofcourse it takes time to do the review but I am sure G is comming out ahead.
What is worrying is the misinformation they spread on this forum , knowing no one can actually check out their website.
Then we all get worried , thinking maybe G is actually quite arbitrary ...and God ...and we publishers are totally at their mercy...
when actually the situation may be quite different.
I don't know about others but sometimes, I worry a lot.
Like the other day my broadband connection was not working and I tried to log on to Adsense. When I could not do so , I nearly panicked like hell!
When I saw that the DSL modem was the problem...I got my breath back..
Stress levels are going up for me..
maybe I should stop tracking adsense every one hr:-) ...
They're certainly a lot more useful to me than the "how do I make money from AdSense?" threads or the "can I use this trick to draw attention to my ads?" threads or the "my earnings are down" threads or the "has Google updated your payment status yet?" threads.
Granted, either might not do as well on the opposite pages than they are presently on (I did weeks of testing to aline them properly) but I won't be wiped out.
example: [webmasterworld.com ]
this thread was closed by a mod after everything has been cleared up and before the feast on the carcass.
their guessing game can create major problems for us, new members
Given the number of new members who show up expecting to make a living off of AdSense in short order, I would say there are worse problems than the "I bin banned" threads.
What paranoids and neurotics really need is psychotherapy (not "Chinese" pre-moderation).
It is too expensive!
Anyways G accepts Chinese pre moderation so It can't be such a bad thing... ;-)
May we all live in Utopia ..
It is just that some webmasters misuse this super forum and maybe we can just get a line on the 'wrong ' guys.
The moderators have always been very vigilant. I myself have been edited out by them once or twice for violating the TOS of WW by being a little too personal in my replies .. I understood the reason a little late but now appreciate the thinking behind the move.
Well done guys ..Keeep the forum safe...
I do apologise for any poorly constructed comment.
;-)
what was that about?
took 10 minutes to get here :)
Here's a thought: allow the OP to put their URL in the post and one or two senior members be appointed, for about a 3 month period,to check out the site to see if there are any violations detectable.
Just a thought I'm throwing out there. It would help lift the load off the moderators.
Ann
