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Has it anything to do with the fact that the domains are now redirected to a subdirectory of the main domain?
Next question is....is there any way to fix this? Would it help to prevent allowing the robots to spider the subdirectories? I'm wallowing around in the dark here and any advice would be most appreciated.
Let me preface my thoughts by saying that I have personally committed site suicide in the past. It is no fun!
I assume this is an ecomomic issue.
The way your site is currently structured doesn't seem to require redirects at all. Why not just link to the other pages?
Thanks for your reply!
Now if you are trying to get everything on one domain I'd change the structure to
[commodityville.com...]
What happened was commoditycentral.com was very well established. I had the very devil of a time getting it moved from a host who had disappeared, but after 2 years managed to get it moved to commodityville.com, (which is my personal website) where it is parked. The problem is....ever since then it has disappeared from the search engines and the hits have dropped like a pair of lead boots in the Hudson.
Of course when a person has it bookmarked as commoditycentral.com, or types that in, they are redirected to www.commoditycentral.com/commoditycentral/index.htm .
Does this redirect thingy upset the robots or spiders and is that why it has slowly disappeared from the search engines? Should I give it it's own account at the new host and start all over again submitting to search engines? The url itself has some value in our industry, and has a certain amount of return visitors, I don't want to lose that by making it a subdirectory of commodityville.com, which is a very new and unknown domain name.
Commoditycentral is just one example....we have 12 domains and they're all now parked and redirected! (WAIL!)
Thanks for your help, Mike.
Shaggy
(about to crawl into a hole..)
Back to the grindstone we go.
is it the ridirect irself that kills, or if there was a reasonable time delay would that make them more SE friendly? I seem to remeber something about that but can't quite remember.
Onya
Woz
I can recall reading about a 30 refresh being "safe", but I have seen 5-10 second refreshes work fine in the SE's. Now, how to keep someone on your page while it redirects might take a little bit of creative writing and a nice graphic.
wondering if this would go someway to solving Shaggy's problem......
Onya
Woz
I am going to move another tomorrow, but I think I'll leave all the others where they are and experiment with them on working around this problem.
Thanks once again for the information!
Let us know how you go with your experiments.
Onya
Woz
Today on Alta Vista the number one slot had a redirect:
Got to [hartcons.com...]
After 15 seconds or so it automatically take you to [hcstudios.com...]
Hummmmm! Any comments on this from our educated group of scholar's?
Gary
And yes, I was wondering about switiching the code too.
Here is another interesting one. Use web site design for the phrase and look at the #3 (http://www.wir.com) There is nothing but a yellow page with a small design in the middle. How did that get in the top ten?
Gary
< look at the source code of each site. They have both been switched. >
I finally found the description under [shadeslanding.com...] . I would guess, as you have stated, that they submitted several pages and went back and changed them. I would also guess that this was one page they believed was not important enough to change.
I am a bit new to this business and my first reaction is that this is not too honest of a way to "fool" the SE's.
But, since it appears that this is the case, what happens when the spiders come back and find these pages? I am going to guess that their rank will drop and they will have to submit the original AV SEO pages and then change the content after submittal to how we see them now.
What would happen if the pages were submitted again as they are now? Would A V weigh the "older" page more as I have heard?
This is correct, unless they are cloaking their page so what we see isn't what the spider sees.
>>What would happen if the pages were submitted again as they are now.
It's been known to happen to submit your competitor's site to the search engines to get the site respidered. Usually scooter comes around right away (within 24 hours now, used to be instant). But AV has been real slow to update it's database lately.
I've also even heard of people contacting AV's spam abuse department if they felt that someone was spamming AV.
>>I would guess, as you have stated, that they submitted several pages and went back and changed them.
One of my competitors did this for over a year and changed the submitted page to a meta refresh page. Even had a couple search engine reps look at their sites and they didn't notice the redirects and told us that our competitor's pages were relevant!
>>FWIW, I restructured one of my sites about 1.5 years ago and used meta redirects and a 5 second delay with no discernable impact at SEs
Dave, good point. Many Engines see this as just a simple "site has been moved". As long as your surfers can wait through the redirect, this works just fine.
Also if you add in a line to the effect, "page moved to newaddress.com, if this page does not redirect please click here" you will probably find most people click without waiting for the redirect. I know I do, and most people are like me yes? (Hmmm... scary!)
Onya
Woz
