Newbie Question - DumpTRUCK and Cookies

Where is the Cookie jar?

[Macguru]

I am new to SEO and usualy speak French. I am trying hard to make sense. ;)

What I like about DumpTRUCK is that is cheap and available on the Mac platform.
I am a big fan of FileMaker and AppleScript for routine automation. I plan to use
DumpTRUCK to submit only links leading to my sites one URL at a time, flush cookies,
change IP and feed a home brewed FileMaker file that will manage reports.
All this in automated worry free cycle that can be run on a "old" Mac.

It seems easy, but i can't get the cookies anywhere. The default browser emulation is set
to Netscape but any new cookie is written to the file.

How does DumpTRUCK manages cookies?

[mivox]

Well Macguru, I bow to your ingenious plan, but at the moment you've got us all scratching our heads on this one!

We've got to have some intrepid Dumptruck users around here somewhere.... maybe they're hibernating for the day?

[Brett_Tabke]

Althought DumpTruck is good stuff and the only one I'd recommend using for programmed submission, I think most every has backed away from programmed submission. The problem is cookies. I don't think DT uses cookies does it? I'll see if I can call in some backup...

[Macguru]

OOps! I did not believe that was a tough nut to crack. Here is a sample DT report on cookie setting I get from Google:

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:33:24 GMT
Server: GWS/1.10
Connection: close
Set-Cookie: PREF=ID=167355c45071521c:TM=981725604:LM=981725604; domain=.google.com; path=/; expires=Sun, 17-Jan-2038 19:14:07 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 491

I can't read cookies more than thea leaves, hope this can help...

[NFFC]

Hi Macguru,

Do you want to know where DT stores cookies?

I'll have a play around with DT later.

[Macguru]

>Do you want to know where DT stores cookies?

Yes this is exactly what I want to know.
Tried it on Win and Mac and I can't find them anywhere.
The best solution would be to run it on a Mac so I can easealy automate the task.
Won't use it for my sites just for newly acquired links to them.

[Brett_Tabke]

I can find nothing in the docs that says dt supports cookies.

I can find nothing in a analysis of a full Dumptruck run to indicate it was sending cookies.
I could find no where that DT wrote any received cookies to disk or to the registery.

I am 99.9% sure, Dump Truck does not support the storing and returning of cookies.

[Macguru]

Thank you Brett,

You are of a great help. But what are the consequences?
Considering the importance of mutal quality and durable link exchange, I work hard at prospection. I cannot control about the crawling on my new "partners" sites.

Does anyone know about some penality of submitting with "all cookies off"?
Since it is mutual link exchange, am I better off making sure my link pages get indexed?
Are we all better off registering a new domain for our link pages so the real one dont get harmed by abusive submission?
Am I asking too many questions? :)

[Brett_Tabke]

Got the following reply from Geoff Strom via email:

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Brett,

Thanks for forwarding me the thread. You are correct in saying that
dumpTRUCK! does not store or return cookies. It will "accept" any cookies
sent by the server during the submission phase, but they are not stored or
used in any way. To date this has not really been an issue, as those who
recommend manual submission, tend to turn cookies off as well.

Feel free to post this if you like. If you have any further questions,
please let me know.

Cheers,

Geoff Strom
simple/CHAOS

[trafficstudio.com ]
home of dumpTRUCK! the batch URL submission tool
easy to use software for Macintosh and Windows
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[Macguru]

Yahoo!... hem, mean Hurray!

Thank you so much Mr Tabke! Feel back on track with my plan.
As soon it is polished enough, I will post a link here to share the product.

Maybe I will also make a "open source" Mac runtime for the FM file so any one can use it.

Unfortunatly, I dont know how to make FM "talk" to other apps without AppleScript.

Hope to deliver whithin a month.

[Macguru]

OOps! Made a promise I cannot keep,

Dump TRUCK does not support AppleScript.

[grnidone]

>Am I asking too many questions?

Never feel intimitated to ask a question. Usually, there are other people who have the same question...so the more questions you ask, the more all of will learn.

-G