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wilderness

10:25 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The IP is irrelavant.

This is just a heads up to UA.

xx.xx.#*$!.xxx - - [14/Nov/2005:17:11:33 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 8046 "-"
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; InfoPath.1)"

InfoPath
some interesting reading here.http://www.microsoft.com/office/infopath/prodinfo/overview.mspx

GaryK

12:48 am on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I read the info page and the FAQ. This sure seems like a MS bot. Do you get that impression too? Sometimes it's hard to tell because most of what's on the MS website about this product uses confusing language.

wilderness

5:38 am on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you get that impression too?

Gary,
It stinks to me of 3rd party!

I uderstood the explantion that use of the tool was to provide storage of collected data.

The first paragraph opens with word "Gather".
The second paragraph, second word uses the term "collected".
I'm not willing to read or explore beyond the aforemtioned definitions.

I don't see how intentions might be defined any clearer?

The purpose of the tool is business related. (3rd party).

For my own websites?
I'm not interested in either benefitting business (at least outside the subject of my content), nor am I interested in having business' store my pages/data (within the subject of my content or not).

The majority of pages are not cache (not sure if a "D" is proper at the end of cache) by any of the major search engines.
Why on earth I should extend this to a MS software is beyond my imagination.

There seems to be a desired goal by major SE's to store data in a central loaction. Google is heading that way more each day. Others seem to be going along as well.
If this method is the "new way"?
I want no part of it?
If I did there are other archivers that have been around for quite a while.

Don

BTW,
I'm taking a vacation from SSID. I may post occassionally.
This forum has never resumed the progressive activity that had before it was shut down.
Before the forum shut down, there were others that posted as frequntly or more often than myself. There were also many others expressing the same opinions as myself.
Hopefully my absence will allow some fresh insights into this forum.

GaryK

12:54 pm on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I never meant to imply this was a bot being used by MS. ;)

Clearly it's a consumer-based product. I guess I'm just a bit miffed that I hadn't heard of this product before, and I'm supposed to get advance copies of, and marketing material for all MS products. For that reason alone I'm willing to ban it. :)

I'm sorry you won't be hanging around SSID. I certainly understand and sympathize with your reasons. That doesn't mean your absence will be any easier to tolerate.

~gary.

Staffa

6:09 pm on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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wilderness

while I mostly agree with your observations and 'protect' my sites much in the same way as you do I don't often add to threads in this forum if I have nothing additional to contribute.

I hope that your absence won't be too long ;o)

keyplyr

7:59 pm on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Don, thanks for the heads-up on InfoPath.

jdMorgan

8:32 pm on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've seen this UA add-on on my site as well. Session looked like a normal human wandering around.

InfoPath is a Microsoft tool that declares itself by adding info to the MSIE 6 user-agent string, in much the same way that F un W eb P roducts and Avant Browser do. As such, these visits are almost certainly from visitors using company computers... but that's all this really tells us. If such visitors don't comport with your site's usual demographics, then it might raise some suspicions, but otherwise it's likely just someone goofing off at work.

My main concern after reading what MS's marketing dept. had to say about it is whether it is limited by design to use on intranets and specified extranets only, or whether *my* content can be included in an InfoPath document. If the latter, then controlling access may be quite a challenge, since you can't tell if someone is just browsing your site or whether they are building a document with your content in it. About all I can think of to combat this would be to add a user-validation step if InfoPath appears in the UA.

Jim

keyplyr

7:38 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I watched the MS presentation and at surface value, I agree Jim. For the time being, I am allowing this UA and will track it.

[is it] limited by design to use on intranets and specified extranets only, or whether *my* content can be included in an InfoPath document...

From what I've picked up from a couple forum discussions, InfoPath can capture (the term they use) any web document and put it in a database for later reference. I guess it's this "later reference" that is of concern.