37.104 and 39.104

what are these, please?

[beezee]

Looking at my website statistics (with Urchin) I see that google.com, msn.com, aol.com, yahoo.com appear under the category of search engine referrals. I also see 'search engines' like 37.104 and 39.104, which visit many, many pages/visit. What are these about, exactly?

[MarieC]

Hi beezee.

Can you tell what the user agent is for 37.104 and 39.104?

According to ARIN, both those IP ranges appear to be assigned to ICANN. Maybe that means somethign to you depending on what type of business your web site is in.

[beezee]

no. don't have user agent info available. any other ideas? approaches?

[wilderness]

Marie and beeze
Those ranges are in the un-assigned/Reserved numbers.

Were it I getting spidered by un-assigned IP ranges?
It would pronounce the use of fake IP's prompting denial as a result

Don

[beezee]

doing a google search on the two numbers brings up, among other things, google search pages. How would I verifiy if they're affiliated with a googlebot?

[wilderness]

These are not affiliated with Google.

You may be getting referrals from a user faking these IP ranges using Google in searches.

Your inquiry for assistance is going to be very limited and the results presumptious UNLESS you are able to provide a full log line with complete data.

[wilderness]

beezee
the ranges you previously provided are imcomplete.
"37.104 and 39.104."

Complete IP ranges are with four separate classes or ocets.

Example
216.239.37.104 (which is a result of searching google on 37.104.)
or

37.104.xxx.xxx which are un-assigned reserved ranges.
The entire 37.xxx.xxx.xxxx ranges are reserved.

Do your logs show the visitor coming from
216.239.37.104 and 216.239.39.104 [Which is Google]
or
37.104.xxx.xxx [which would be a faked IP]

See the dilema created by incomplete data?

[beezee]

Thanks for staying with me on this, wilderness, but all i see in my Urchin reports are the numbers inidicated. I guess it's unsolvable for now. Too bad for me.