Extending to Qwest

from Cyvelliance

[wilderness]

Not so far off topic?
I looked at the threads back to early October and saw nothing of referecne to Arin searches.

has anybody figured out how to do the old NET search at Arin-Whois since the pages changed.
the procedure now calls for:
EX;
63.148.99.247

63.148 <
63.148.<
63.148. >

I tried all three earlier today with no success.
Thanks in advance

[bird]

I'm not sure if I understand your problem completely.

The ARIN search will always give you the network (IP range) results, even if you only search for an individual address withing that range. This type of output also usually includes a "Parent:" line, which in your example links to the next bigger address block up the chain.

Other than that, the traditional way to specify a network address (in contrast to an individual host address) is to use zeroes as wildcards: 63.148.0.0
Since ARIN always expands addresses to the next known range, that's really aequivalent to entering a "real" address.

You can click through the chain from your starting example: 63.148.99.224

- OrgName: Cyveillance
- NetRange: 63.148.99.224 - 63.148.99.255
- ...
- Parent: NET-63-144-0-0-1

* OrgName: Qwest Communications
* NetRange: 63.144.0.0 - 63.151.255.255
* ...
* Parent: NET-63-0-0-0-0

+ OrgName: American Registry for Internet Numbers
+ NetRange: 63.0.0.0 - 63.255.255.255
+ ...
+ Parent: (empty, since this is a top-level address block)

[bird]

Ah, just read your questino again...

Looks like the "<" and ">" hierarchy search indeed doesn't work. As far as I can tell, both variants just return the "nearest" address range.

[wilderness]

Many thanks Bird for your reply.

Prior to Arin changing its pages and procedures.
The old method was;

net 63.148.
Which resulted in the sub users of
63.148.XXX.XXX up to 256 lines of data.

The new procedure is eiher

> 63.148.
63.148 >

This allows you to see if any substantial users are contained in a sub range before denying.
EX;
Lets say 63.148.whoever
held the block 63.148.127.xxx through 63.148.255.xxx
by using the net inquiry I we could determine if the 63.148 ranges of 126 and lower contained any substantil users POSSIBLY permitting the use of the entire 63.148. range in denies.

I have a html page of an old Arin net inquiry saved.
I'd be glad to sticky it to you?