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My experience with promotion

so far how I saw it...

         

adamovic

4:08 pm on May 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have read a lot and mainly people said that DMOZ is most important. But I eventually got one link from DMOZ for one of my sites but it don't generate me traffic.

Writting articles (who does nobody read) and press releases seems not to give effect worth trying if any.

I tried with Slashdot and digg without success. But still I could recomend everybody to try with it.

I have read that I shouldn't run programs for generating links since it won't improve my rankings.

Manual asking for link exchange for me don't have any sence to all since it needs a lot of time.

So it seems that only AdWords and black hat techniques are working nowadays. Of couse excessive black hat techniques can work just for a short amount of time if any.

I invite you to share your expirience and opinions.

Green_Grass

4:53 pm on May 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yeah .... It is a tough battle.. But then all good things take time and targetted effort..

adamovic

5:43 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BTW, I did simple test. I had one PR5 ranked page and put 120 pages behind. Two days ago Google crawled it and add it into index but I got only one hit a day. And still if is seek those articles by title and it seems that they are ranked usually 1-100 in Google.
One page is ranked 3th among 14,000,000 pages.
Other page is ranked 44th among 449,000,000 pages.
I haven't check more.

It seems simply that calculation shows that there are less than 500 million Internet users in the world each day and there are 50 billion or something pages ... So to get traffic to me it seems very difficult.

It seems that simply there are much more pages then visitors.

Bennie

12:32 am on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No offence intended adamovic but it seems like you want to achieve a lot without any effort. It's simply not that easy.

Writing articles (who does nobody read) and press releases seems not to give effect worth trying if any.

I know at least one site that has entered the top of my local serps using this method since the last update.

You should give it a try, but remember the more shortcuts you look for the less effective your campaign will be.

Also swapping a few links with the sites at the top of your serps can't be that hard can it? Unless your site is well crap...

You've already dont the hardest part - a dmoz listing... If dmoz has listed your site it must have merits, search for sites that compliment these merits and they should be happy to either offer you a one-way link (be very polite) or an exchange (better than nothing).

Good luck with it!

tedster

2:59 am on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One page is ranked 3th among 14,000,000 pages.

One other key factor is how often people actually search on that keyword.

If it is a frequent search, then a #3 ranking should bring you healthy traffic. However, you can rank on keywords that almost no one ever searches on. In such a case, it doesn't matter how high you rank or how many pages that search returns.

adamovic

5:18 am on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Also swapping a few links with the sites at the top of your serps can't be that hard can it?

Hm, for that particular site it is difficult to find exchange partners in the same field. I might try to exhange links with sites in different areas. But I wonder does Google and Yahoo look at it as link schemes for improving ranking. Is it against Google webmaster guidelines?

So far only links I have are one-way links.

I have received some link exhange request from people who did use WebmasterGold but I saw recommendation to stay away from it.

Unless your site is well crap...
You've already dont the hardest part - a dmoz listing... If dmoz has listed your site it must have merits..

I don't think the site is crap. If I think that it is crap I would understand. Some people doesn't like the site. Some other probably think the oposite, otherwise I wouldn't get
dmoz listing.

adamovic

5:29 am on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One other key factor is how often people actually search on that keyword. If it is a frequent search, then a #3 ranking should bring you healthy traffic. However, you can rank on keywords that almost no one ever searches on. In such a case, it doesn't matter how high you rank or how many pages that search returns.

Right point. Basically I reliazed that there are 20 billion pages or something like that and approx. 1 billion searches a day. It isn't possible to get significant traffic with some rarely searched terms. Thanks for the point.

Off course that I don't try to rank high with some competetive terms because I would assume that it is mission almost imposible.

[edited by: caveman at 5:36 am (utc) on May 16, 2006]
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