Submitting!

[kosar]

I submit our site once a month with submission software to numerous engines. Am i submitting enough and should i stop using the software to submit and do it myself? tks

[jdMorgan]

There's a very good reason that the Search Engine Submission [webmasterworld.com] forum here at WebmasterWorld is deprecated.

Search engine submission died in the 90's.

All you need to do is get incoming links to your site, and there's no need to "submit" at all.

Jim

[kosar]

i have also come across that submission is dead, not to say that i dont belive you but could you offer me some proof of this because we have a consultant who isist that submission is still a must. tks

[bnhall]

I would trust this board a lot more than someone who's telling you something contradictory that could make them money.

[kevinpate]

By chance would that be a consultant who is paid to give submission advice? :)

jdMorgan nailed it smack dab on the head for you, and
he dinna charge ya a single dime for the
consultation.

What you want, and need, are links with decent anchor text on pages which the SE's already know about. The SE bot will find you via those links.

[ogletree]

It's not totaly dead. As far as Google is concerened it is dead. I have had some success with the free Yahoo submission. I don't know about some of the minor engines they may still use it. Now paid submission is a very viable way of getting in and a must if you want to be in Yahoo in any decent amount of time. This is called pay for performance. I would be very careful about a consultant that says anything about submission software. If they do suggest it they should tell you that is should not be used for Google for sure. If they don't explain to you what they are doing and why then run run away this person is an amature. Amatures can get you banned from SE's. Be very careful. If not that they will at least do nothing for you and take your money.

[kosar]

tks for all the advice

[jdMorgan]

> free Yahoo submission.

That's still very useful, but the subject of this thread appears to be periodic resubmission -- the old "Submit your site to 10,000 search engines every 30 days" scam... Now that is deader than a doorknob, IMHO.

Get a number of links from other well-ranked, on-topic or related-subject sites, with varied link text that is on-topic for your site. The free-inclusion robots will find those links and include your pages, even if you never "submit" a single page.

Jim

[ogletree]

Yes you are right. Pages only need to be submitted once. If you add new pages you can add them but don't be resubmitting them that is a total waste. You really need to stay very far away from this person. If you consider someone an expert and they give you bad advice everything they say now is suspect. Just like any tech field there are always people who act like experts when they really don't know anything.

[Encore]

I agree with amny in that submitting gets you nowhere, or is not as effective as one would imagine. I have owned many sites and my current is getting increasingly popular. I have never submitted to any search engines, simply link exchanged with sites which do appear in google for example and before long you'll be on.

[cabowabo]

The last time I submitted a site to a search engine was 1999. Submitting to directories is the only submissions we do now. Works like a charm.

Search engine submission services are a complete sham.

Cheers,

CaboWabo

[baboom]

You may want to take caution on how you choose to submit your site. It maybe best to hire a professional consultant in the area that specializes in search engine submission and placement. But one that does this by human intervention other then aided by computer submission. Or to simply submit to various sites yourself after discussion with a consultant on how to best optimize your site and submission process.

[cabowabo]

In terms of submission, you only need a consultant for the directory submissions to ensure you are in the right category and the Titles and Descriptions meet the various TOS.

Cheers,

CaboWabo

[tebrino]

Just make sure you appear in Google, Yahoo and MSN. Also submit your site to web directories with good anchor text related to your content. Also you should consider submitting your sites to local search engines and content related directories.
However, my best tip is to exchange links with quality web sites with high PR and similar cotent. This way you'll get good positions in Google SERP's. On my sites I receive more than 50% traffic from Google.

[olegshilkrut]

what is anchor text?

[tebrino]

>what is anchor text?
If your site is about "blue widgets", make sure that phrase "blue widgets" appears in link text