What's happened to MSN and Yahoo?

Suddenly, the site is gone....

[Dan_Vendel]

Hi,

I use Advanced Web Ranking to check ranking. Yesterday, one site was ranked 3,3,4,7,16,28 and 46 on AV for eight different phrases. The same phrases on Yahoo gave 4,6,8,2,20,29 and 30.

Today, the site was completely gone from both. Since I suspected that AWR might err, I made a manual search using the same phrases and came up with zilch. The site is suddenly non-existing.

Questions:

Have e.g. AV and Yahoo had some problems the past day?
Did the kick the site? (Oh, I am very gentle to the SEs. AWR is set to contact a SE every 30 seconds. But even if that is too often, the manual, very slow search I made showed the same result)
Or have I been visiting the SEs too often lately, making them block my IP?

Suggestions/theories welcome.

Cheers,
Dan

[Dan_Vendel]

None?

[iThink]

Some kind of rollback has happened in last 1-2 days on Yahoo. For a particular keyword, that I have been monitoring for last 3-4 months regularly, my page went from #12 to #1 around last Monday and then moved back to #12 yesterday. May be that is the sign of things to come (update?).

[Dan_Vendel]

Thanks for response.
Now I know it's not me.
I just did a run on a site again, and Yahoo seems to be back on track. AV is still ...malfunctioning.

D

[Dan_Vendel]

Now the site is "gone" from AV and Yahoo again. :-(
What on earth is going on? I've never seen anything like this..it's as if all their databases are screwed up...

Dan

[Digital Worker]

I am having the same problems.

It looks like yahoo.com are switching between two different databases.

50% of the time i am there

50% not

I have tried everything, eg getting links from the database i dont appear in and nothing seems to work.

They also wont rank my site in Yahoo UK which is where my site is situated, it just doesnt make any sense.

[ThePhoenix]

Hello-

I have experienced HUGE problems over the past 2 days with Yahoo. Starting on Tuesday, my traffic has fallen over 80%. I cannot seem to find out what has triggered this problem.

I have many many sites, and am seeing this drop in traffic on all of them.

How do I determine what is causing this? How can I find out if Yahoo has removed me from the serps? Or if this is just a fluke that will soon return to normal?

Anyone else experienced similar problems?

-ThePhoenix

[Dan_Vendel]

Today, my site popped up in Yahoo and AV...finally.

Perhaps my "case" could be used as a yardstick for people in the same predicament, so here are the prerequisites:

1. Launched a pretty well optimized sites 16 June (been doing this a couple of years, so I have a pretty OK undersdtanding), and submitted to Google, dmoz.org and some other directories (no other SEs, though). Set up incoming links from 2 other sites, all together about 25 pages/links pointing to the new one, since I thought that was enough to start with. These two sites were already far up in all SEs, included in dmoz.org, etc.

2. Google picked up the site after three days, ranking it badly: it ended up #120 or so on only one search phrase, and were nowhere to be seen regardless of any other term. The other SEs ignored it completely.

3. Eventually, it began showing up at Yahoo and AV, too, but then started the circus (see my posts above). Still, the one (lousy) rank at Google remained. Still, the stats showed regular visits from AV's and Yahoo's bots.

4. Today, 14 August, I ran Advanced Web Ranking for the 60th time since launch, and FINALLY, Yahoo and AV rabked it - and pretty OK, too. Now I've included in my nightly prayer that it'll stay there - and move upwards.

My conclusion from this is that there probably is a "sanboxing" scheme by AV and Yahoo, too, but somewhat different from Google's (which still lists the site as bad as it has all the time).

Anyway, maybe this drivel could be useful/comforting/distressing for others out there. I'll post back when/if something happens with Google.
Heck, they need my site top ranked to get most out of that NASDAQ introduction..... ;-)

Cheers,
Dan