Multiple Domain from a single IP are banned ?

[smaart]

Can anyone give me more info about this as to, are multiple domain name from a single IP address are banned or penalized at SE's. I have read somewhere but I cannot recall it. If you could provide me the source it would be really appreciable.
Thanks.

[Brett_Tabke]

Many of those banned on Alta have said they are getting banned IP wide. It is the only engine that we've heard it from multiple people over and over - enough to make us believe that it is true. The other big crawlers left (fast,ink,google,excite) all seem to handle same ip sites ok.

[smaart]

Thanks Brett_Tabke for your reply...
But I think I had read at Searchengineworld or in some newsletter that multiple domains hosted at a single IP dont get higher rating....
So maybe still searching.... :)
Thnxs anyway....

[sugarkane]

I have several sites sharing an IP - one is banned (AV), the others are fine. This has been the situation for 12 months now.

I have a feeling that IP banning is a human decision when outrageous spam / cloaking / whatever is involved, but simply tripping a spam filter will only result in domain banning.

Just a thought...

[Brett_Tabke]

Well there you go, another one that says same ip is ok. Looks like AV hand picks only those that are the worst for full ip banning. Beats me, but I've heard same ip banning over and over from different people for almost 12 months - made me a bit paranoid.

[sugarkane]

Brett> made me a bit paranoid

Same here, I've been waiting for the other sites to disappear over the last year, I'm finally starting to believe that they'll be OK

(touches wood very quickly)

[attick]

Unfortunately, and as the direct result of being a rookie, we have had 2 out of 3 of our domain names canceled at ODP and have been labeled as spamming. Not knowing how to cancel the older domains, we let them run and added a third. Now, going from 6th position on the first page of a search to the 6th page and 48th position, our business is dead in the water. All three domains lead to the same site yet were consistantly indexed differently.

I would greatly appreciate any advice on what to do now.

[eljefe3]

>>Unfortunately, and as the direct result of being a rookie, we have had 2 out of 3 of our domain names canceled at ODP and have been labeled as spamming.

Was this due to being on the same shared ip, or was it because the sites point to the same domain?

>>Now, going from 6th position on the first page of a search to the 6th page and 48th position, our business is dead in the water.

Did the position drop occur in just ODP, or across the board?

Is there any chance of getting each domain to stand on it's own and not all point to the same domain?

Have you appealed to ODP and explained the "rookie mistake". Hopefully they can restore at least one listing to the first page.

How are your sites doing in the other directories and search engines? Has the ODP drop affected all of the listings in the other Directories and search engines?

Now might be time to do some work to get them ranked higher for the crawler based search engines while awaiting your ODP review.

[attick]

Thanks for your reply

3 domain names were pointing to the same site.

The drop occured at ODP and SE's, AOL, Netscape, etc. With all three names to the same site I still have trouble understanding why all three were indexed differetly on the same search. One on the first page, one on the third and one on the fifth. The first and second were dropped altogether and the third went from the fifth to the sixth page. Major hand slapping.

In other engines the site is doing very well. Haven't been able to find who the editor is for the catagory at ODP or an email address for ODP to try to explain to the higher up's. Is it possible that the editor is a competitor?

[attick]

Sorry about that...found out the catagory doesn't have an assigned editior. The editor from the next catagory up is taking carer of it for now.

[eljefe3]

Let us know how it turns out. You're not the only one who has done something like this, so if you can share you experience with us, it will surely help someone down the road.

[attick]

Well...in ODP our site is ranked 10th in the catagory. The problem seems to be AOL. Netscape, etc. searches where we are absolutely burried. Going from 6th place on the first page to 48th is a big hit. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.