Is it still useful to submit site to search engines?

[member22]

Hello,

I am wondering if it is still usefull to submit a site to search engine like lycos, altavista, all the web etc... and if it is going to help for seo or if it is better to do everything manually which is what I have always done, (find a site with a good page rank that can create a link for me).

My issue with submitting to search engine is that most of the time even thought the search engine homepage has a high page rank usually the pages where they put a link for my site have 0 page rank so I really don't see the use ? am I right in my way of thinking or should I do both and if so why ?

Thank you,

[Quadrille]

There's really no point, except that submitting just might speed up the indexing of a page that would have been listed eventually (via links).

Any search engine worthy of the name will find a new page pretty quickly, if there's quality links to it.

Outside of the top 3.5 search engines, that 'acceleration' is probably not worth sweating over, so personally, I reckon there's better ways to invest your time!

And as for paying for a 'search engine submission service' - No.

[gldean]

I always start with search engine submissions to get things rolling. Then backinks, articles, etc.

Regards,
GD

[coolguythampy]

Stay away. Spend some time useful

[caveman]

As Quadrille says, if you are talking about using submission services or the 'add url' pages of the engines, there's no need at all. We're talking about these pages:
[google.com...]
[search.yahoo.com...]
[search.live.com...]

There was even some speculation for a while that submitting sites that was was a sign of spam. I doubt that was ever hurt by submitting itself to the engines, but I do recall some SE rep a long time ago saying that a high percentage of sites that submit themselves turn out to be rather spammy.

Bottom line: The engines prefer to 'discover' you as they crawl the Web naturally.

Please note also that the site submit pages above (and site submission services) are different from the newer sitemap protocol, which is a way to help guide the engines to the most important URI's on your site. More info here:

[sitemaps.org...]