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Domain list by registrar

Good or Bad practice

         

balour

3:12 am on Aug 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hello!

I have an argument with my registrar. He list all domains of his customer on the same section of his web site, so the spammers robots can come and catch new domains every day or week.

Also, this listing can be see as a "Link Farm" by the search engine and penelize the domain list on this page.

So, I want to know if this is good or bad practice.

Appreciate

[edited by: encyclo at 1:12 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2007]
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caveman

8:05 am on Aug 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What is the goal of the page? Ranking each keyword? Promoting a portfolio? Different goals, different approaches.

I see nothing wrong with listings all domains from a given owner on a single page. That is NOT the definition of a link farm.

If I built a site to market my own domains, I'd try to cluster them by groups onto smaller pages, which concentrates the presense of a given domain name among fewer listings.

I'd also make sure each domain had a parking page, ideally one I built myself, but a parking page in any event...with a for sale sign on the page somewhere.

balour

1:01 pm on Aug 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This is not a page with only the domain own by a unique owner, but a section of a site containing all domain own by his customer.

Their is 27 pages, one for each letter and digit. The B page contain 2000 domains, the M Page contain 2291 domain, etc. For a total of 33896 domains on the 27 pages. Each domain is only list with no detail. This is a good spot for a daily or weekly run from
a spammer robots.

Is this more related to "Link Farm" and give bad score from SEO or this don't have negative impact on ranking?

[edited by: encyclo at 1:13 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2007]
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caveman

4:09 pm on Aug 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You're asking different questions.

1) Yes, spammers can grab those domains easily, FWIW, just like they can any content on a public Web page.

2) This is not a link farm.

3) As far as ranking, the basic rules of ranking pages apply. The more there is on a page. Generally, pages with too much on them tend to have more trouble ranking for a given term than pages more focused around that term.

Domains are a bit different though, in that the number of mentions of a given domain on the Web especially if the domain was never a Web site, are typically pretty low, so it doesn't take too much to rank for direct match queries.

If I registered alkdjslksskljsd.com, threw that up on a page that got spidered regularly, and searched for it a while later, the SE's would not have too much trouble turning up that page since there are no other mentions around the Web...even if that domain was on a page with hundreds of other domains.

Make sense?

balour

4:39 pm on Aug 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Allo!

1) Yes, spammers can grab those domains easily, FWIW, just like they can any content on a public Web page.

OK for public domains, domains who are widely desiminate, but, some domain are for a relatively private use, and their owner don't want to be list "publicly". Don't think about adult site, but just domain not ready to public release, etc.

2) This is not a link farm.

What is your definition of "Link Farm"?

3) As far as ranking, the basic rules of ranking pages apply. The more there is on a page. Generally, pages with too much on them tend to have more trouble ranking for a given term than pages more focused around that term.

I doudt flooding a domain with thousand other domains on the same page are any help in ranking.

Domains are a bit different though, in that the number of mentions of a given domain on the Web especially if the domain was never a Web site, are typically pretty low, so it doesn't take too much to rank for direct match queries.

I understand that, but most of the domain don't have lot of direct link to than. Having their domain list with 1000 of others domain most have a more negative effect than a positive one.

If I registered alkdjslksskljsd.com, threw that up on a page that got spidered regularly, and searched for it a while later, the SE's would not have too much trouble turning up that page since there are no other mentions around the Web...even if that domain was on a page with hundreds of other domains.

This is good for a specific keyword containing in the domain itself. What is the effect on other keyword in the domain itself?

[edited by: encyclo at 1:16 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2007]

davezan

1:07 am on Aug 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have an argument with my registrar.

Is this really a registrar?

balour

3:34 am on Aug 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, they have more than 38,000 domain list on the
"Registered Domain" pages.

He are a registrar with ICANN, CIRA and EU

planetdomain

3:48 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You can check ICANN's website to see if they are an accredited registrar or not:

http*//www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html

It is possible they're just a reseller (take DROA for example, who are simply reselling namejuice).

I would like to believe that all ICANN accredited registrars are responsible, but given the recent register-fly fiasco, I think the ICANN Accreditation has somewhat been tarnished. At least they've demonstrated that they'll excercise their powers if need be, so I suppose that is one good thing to come out of it.

[edited by: caveman at 4:24 am (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]
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balour

3:21 pm on Sep 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The register is listes as an official ICANN reister.

I browse the ICANN site, but don't see any place
to complaint about this behavior.

For this kind of complaint, ICANN return to register,
but, as I already discuss the topic with the register,
their only solution is to remove by hand my domain
from the list, I don't see any big hope to find a
mutual acceptable solution with this registrar. I
already do business with this register for some time
now, about 4-5 years, and they are not very prompt
to satisfy this kind of complaint, I don't know what
is the next step.

Any sugestion?