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Keyword postioning!

Shoulld i put keyword in the left table or right?

         

illusionist

3:18 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok, so i have a table with three rows. In the first row i have the normal navigational links and in the second the body text blah blah and in the third i have optimized keywords and links...as shown below.

Navigation ¦ Body ¦Other Links with optimized keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords
Links ¦ Text ¦ keywords

I was wondering would this be better for search engines?

keywords¦ Body ¦Navigation
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links
keywords¦ Text ¦ Links

Baically if i put my navigation on the right side then i can my keyword on the left side. What do you think?

dougmcc1

4:58 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So basically you're asking what would spam the SE's more, putting the keywords on the left side or the right side of the page? I say spam is spam.

Perhaps a better question is where do your visitors want to see the keywords? My guess is they don't want to see them at all.

agerhart

5:20 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dougmcc1, I don't think that answered his question very well. Illusionist did not ask about the website visitors either.

I think the correct answer would have been to have the keywords in the left column, since the left column will probably appear first in the code.

illusionist

8:22 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I thought a part of seo was strategic positoning of your keywords in a webpage, so how am i spamming actaully?

You mean to say just because im inserting keywords in a webpage im sapmming search engine?

what excatly did i do wrong?

Did you get off the wrong side of the bed or something?

illusionist

8:24 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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agerhart yes you are right, it does appear first. I have seen alot of sites doing so. But isnt it a weird thing to have a navigation on your right side, instead of the original left? I mean would people mind it?

deejay

9:23 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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illusionist, personally I'd rather see your keywords appear throughout all the cells, giving you a spread throughout the page.

But if you have to choose, higher in the code would be preferable.

From the user perspective though, keep the navigation on the left.

You can do both by 'table tricking'.

<table>
<tr>
<td><!--empty top left cell--></td>
<td><!--empty top middle cell--></td>
<td rowspan="2">keywords</td>
<tr>
<tr>
<td>navigation</td>
<td>content</td>
</tr>
</table>

deejay

9:28 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually I should clarify:

I'd rather see your keywords appear throughout all the cells - ie, navigation and content - giving you a spread throughout the page, and removing the need for a keyword cell.

I'm not sure what you are envisioning as far as the keyword cell goes, but if it is just a place to put a list of keywords (ie, not reader-friendly content), then as a visitor it would have a negative impact on my impresson of your page.

mcavill

9:31 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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for me, main categories to the left, body and then sub cats to right seems to be OK, and a resonable layout for my users, and as deejay mentioned you can tweak how the SE's "see" the page.

illusionist

10:27 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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aahhh..thanx!

dougmcc1

11:38 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry if I came across as harsh. What I was trying to say, illusionist, is that it seems like what you're doing is throwing a bunch of keywords on a page to increase your rankings. Navigation is fine. Content is fine. But why the list of keywords? And when you get those extra visitors from the higher rankings, what will they think of it?

In other words, what deejay said :)

agerhart

5:25 pm on Nov 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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dougmcc1,

There are many instances where what illusionist explains and lays out is perfectly normal. Product listings, classified listings, etc., etc., are examples where your keywords would be listed in the same way that illusionist describes.