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Can A Search Engine be held legally and financially responsible

If they don’t remove penalties from clean sites....

         

Phil_S

10:06 pm on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google has so much control over all the internet search results and really has no or not much support for website owners.

They can put you out of business if you get caught in one of their spam filters by accident, and you can't get out even if your website is clean.

You can loose thousands if not millions of dollars.

I wonder IF they can be held legally and financially responsible.

Brett_Tabke

10:12 pm on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Read their terms of service. They are under no obligation even to list your site let alone manage the listing in any way.

rfgdxm1

12:15 am on Jan 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wrong answer about the TOS. Just because Google puts something on a web page doesn't mean it is binding. And, even if Google had no TOS they still wouldn't be liable. Unless a webmaster has paid Google to do well in the SERPs, then what duty does Google have to deliver that? Hmm...I think my sites deserve to be #1 on Google for "computers" and "travel". Can I sue just because I think I deserve this? No. This would be the same as me suing Brett because I believe my sites are so deserving that he should link to them on the home page of Webmasterworld.

skibum

12:30 am on Jan 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We all make a choice to depend on Google and other editorial placements for traffic or advertise. Building a business that depends on free anything is a risky proposition.

Google makes no promises about including or ranking sites and there is no consideration given in exchange for inclusion or ranking within their database at Google.

Can they be sued? Sure. There is one case in particular of someone trying to do that now. IMO its doubtful that the case will be successful but anyone is free to try if they can fund the case.

mayor

4:40 am on Jan 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If I fall into your swimming pool and drown, my estate can sue you and win. You should have put up safegaurds to keep me from getting hurt on your property.

If you're robbing my house and I shoot you, and kill you, my estate can sue you and win, and you'll probably do time in prison as well. You should not have taken the law into your own hands, unless cornered and in self defense.

So don't be too quick to jump to conclusions on these search engine issues where material damage is done to someone else's business while venturing onto the search engine's cyberturf.

In business school they teach you to how to behave so as to avoid litigation. If a team of hungry lawyers gets on your case, you lose no matter what.

Phil_S

6:57 pm on Jan 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's a crazy world out there.

I guess if you can sue McDonalds because you spilled hot coffee on yourself or sue Burger King because the cheeseburgers made you fat anything is possible.

mayor

7:13 pm on Jan 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mayor, correcting his own post above >> If you're robbing my house and I shoot you, and kill you, my estate can sue you and win, and you'll probably do time in prison as well. You should not have taken the law into your own hands, unless cornered and in self defense

Should say:

If I'm robbing your house and you shoot me, and kill me, my estate can sue you and win, and you'll probably do time in prison as well. You should not have taken the law into your own hands, unless cornered and in self defense

Sorry, I probably shouldn't be making posts when I should be sleeping!

Phil_S

2:54 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just reading the above comments

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Hmm...I think my sites deserve to be #1 on Google for "computers" and "travel". Can I sue just because I think I deserve this?
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No, I don't expect to be number anything. Just let my pages in the searchable Google database.

The only crime I'm guilty of is have multiple urls share the same website.

I did not do this to spam anyone. We just could not find the right URL for our type of business.
[webmasterworld.com...]

As soon as I realized what was going on, I separated my urls. Which caused even more problems and snowballed.

We have been trying to get our pages back in since 06/2002 and I estimate we lost 1/2 M...... in sales from this error. My error and was an honest mistake.

Now we do pay per click and rely on previous customers. The only real engines, right now, are Overture and Google.

Every time one of our pages from flxxYxxxMxxx.com does appear in Google, it does great. But does not last long and they disappear.

I guess it's time to throw in the towel and start all over with a new URL.

flxxxxxxMxxx.com is a clean URL. Hundred bucks to anyone who finds spam on our site.

I'm not the suing type of person; actually I won't even talk to people who do this.

europeforvisitors

8:00 am on Jan 19, 2003 (gmt 0)



If I fall into your swimming pool and drown, my estate can sue you and win. You should have put up safegaurds to keep me from getting hurt on your property.

A better analogy would be:

"If you choose to swim in my pool and I suspect that you've been urinating in the water, I'll throw you out because it's my pool and I have the right to keep it untainted."