Whats the score with optimization software

Is seo software worth the time and effort?

[Giddion]

I was hoping I could get a little support on the matter of Web position Gold.

After playing around with my title’s and descriptions to match the percentages of WPG page critic, they end up looking like a dogs dinner!

I have been told it’s the Industry standard for optimising pages, and as you guys are the industry I was hoping you could give me your views on this optimisation software.

Is it worth the effort?

[Andrew Thomas]

Welcome to WebmasterWorld Giddion

I cant find any posts yet, but most people here will advise you to stay clear of using the full functionality of WPG and any other similiar programs, as google does not like it.

Maybe someone with a bit more experience can give some more info on this topic.

[Ove]

Hi and welcome to WebmasterWorld

here is a lot of reading abot wpg

[searchengineworld.com...]

/Ove

[chiyo]

i have never used WPG except for an evaluation many years ago. Their people are very proffessional who make very informative and good postings here. Of course the Google accessing problem is very real.

I havent looked at it for years, but I would think that the whole basis for the product was developed for another time, when on page text was really the only way to do SEO. Things have changed mightily and though Im sure they have upgraded their product their USP on which the basis was conceived has now past. Im generally basing this on how often WPG users seem to over focus on such things as keyword percentages and placement and the like. It's still a factor for sure, but less and less so every day.

[BillytheKid]

I use WPG2 only for the ability to get all of my search engine things like html, tags, meta, etc. together so I can place it in my pages. Each page is different and I add the content seperatly and it has worked very well for me. Never use the rank checker and don't worry too much about the other tools. It is too expensive for what I use it for but the time savings I get out of it is nice.

[Marcia]

Welcome to the board, Giddion.

I've never used any optimization software, but my understanding is that at one time way back "the page" and meta tags were used for rankings, so there may have been value. There still might be for measuring densities - I don't know, I don't (and wouldn't) use it.

SEO has evolved now to where there are a whole lot of other factors involved with optimizing a site, including many that are off-page - Page Rank (Google), theming (Teoma - don't discount their future possibilities), number of links, link text, site navigation, just so many factors that page analysis has only limited value. Plus, it's not only keyword density, it's how phrasing is used, word order, placement on the page, etc., etc. Then, there are differences in what's needed depending on how competitive terms are.

There are so many variables and so many changes, so often, that it can't be possible that anyone has the full answer. If you look at the limitations of a product, and it still has features that save time and increase productivity, it might have some value - but it takes a balanced view to decide.

[Giddion]

Thanks everyone!

Thats some good feedback

[Tony_Perry]

God you guys are good. Where else could you get such valuable advice? And it's free! The knowledge and experiance in this forum never ceases to amaze me. And to think that many of us are actualy competing with each other? The world could learn a lesson here.