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I still see lots of referrals coming in from my paid inclusions to this day.
Its cheap, fast, and is good for a year.
That really depends on whether they survive or not.
Personally, I would hold my cash. You also have a pretty good chance of getting in for free if you are patient.
Inktomi is the best engine world to target when you want to turn up for very specific search terms. e.g. 'discounts on books by ayn rand ' or probably something like 'cheap perfumes with the fragrance of roses'.
Such searches are quite considerable on the internet and the reason they do not show up on search reporting tools is that they do not have the volumes to cross the thresholds set by these tools.
You would know what are the specific searches to target for based on what your site is all about. When you talk Inktomi, you talk MSN. The search engine that is greater than Google in terms of search volumes per month.
The benefit of very targeted and specific searches for MSN is that Looksmart listings diminish or are not present. Then you can have your cake. It works very well for me because I target very specific kwds.
It might not be the best idea to pay for your home page but for a page where you specifically speak of product to sell etc etc.
hope it helps. theposter.
I have to say that it is definitly worth the money. You are only talking about $40 per url. I paid for inclusion and my page is now listed in the top 10 for several keywords. And ever since I have seen my traffic increase greatly!
Any thoughts or suggestions?
I'm interested in submitting my url to Inktomi for paid inclusion. This site has over 20,000 unique pages (e-commerce catalog). Does anyone know how deep Inktomi will crawl?The won't; or at least while you might happen to get crawled for "free," it won't happen as a result of your paying them for inclusion of one url. The paid spidering program at Inktomi is per-url, so to get all 20,000 pages in you'd have to pay for each of them (and at that level you'd probably use the CPC-based Index Submit program).
Another approach might be to choose specific pages, or to create a handful new pages specifically targeted for use in Inktomi -- perhaps pages describing various product categories from which visitors coming in from Inktomi would move to your regular catalog pages.
One page of spidering hardly sounds like it is worth the trouble when dealing with a large site.
Not at all......what is the sitemap going to rank under? If you are paying for the URL, INK is not going to allow other URLs in for free.
"hardly worth it" yep, that's true too.
For a large site, it's why they'd rather charge you on a CPC basis - much more money in it for them, on an ongoing basis...and it's the model they stole from the SEO's they were trying to emulate on the program.
That way, at least your most important pages are indexed, while you wait for the Inktomi "free" spider to come around and pick up all your other pages in a few months.
"Hardly worth it"?
You pay Yahoo $300 for "1 page spidering", and you can't change your title/description unless you fork over a ton more cash.
Here you pay $25 for "1 page spidering" and you can change your title and description EVERY 48 HOURS AUTOMATICALLY until it gets the rank you're looking for!
It's WAY worth it.
This is taken directly form the Ink web site
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The largest partner that INK has is MSN. The runner-ups are HotBot and Overture, and, IMO, alone do not warrant the registration fee for INK.
How can you say that it is not worth the registration fee? We are talking $40/year for the 1st URL and $25 for additional URL's. If you have a site that doesn't have a lot of keyword competition you should be able to get your site on the 1st or 2nd page with a well written page. And yes it may not be the biggest search engine around right now, but who knows who is going to be the best search engine in the future. Where was Google 2+ years ago? IMO the more sites you can get listed on the better it is for your business as well as page rank. . What about the rumor that is going around about Yahoo switching to INK results? Wouldn't it be a good thing if you were already listed in INK if this happens?
You misunderstood what I said above. As long as MSN still uses INK results, the registration fee is worthwhile.
If INK did not have MSN, their registration fee would not be worthwhile.
IMO, even with MSN, they need to find another partner.
Don't you mean switching BACK to Inktomi results?
A few years back, before the rise of Google (and their partnering with Yahoo...), a paid inclusion to Inktomi was the fastest way into Yahoo secondary results, and well worth the money.
Anyway - a paid inclusion to Inktomi is still worth more than any other paid inclusion - namely FAST/Lycos or Alta Vista. Those two are about useless as far as I'm concerned. Higher pricing and weaker traffic.
A few years back, before the rise of Google (and their partnering with Yahoo...), a paid inclusion to Inktomi was the fastest way into Yahoo secondary results, and well worth the money.
You are mistaken, friend...INK launched the PFI program after losing the contract to google...so the paid inclusion has never been a way into Yahoo secondary results.
Part of the thinking on Y!'s part with this might be that they devalue their directory listings, if people can pay a smaller annual fee to get the traffic.
Back to the topic, I believe we'll know in a few months if INK is really worth it or not, as we see how the market continues to evolve among the backfill providers...as Andrew mentioned, INK really does need to find a new partner.
Better go brush up on my SE history before I hurt someone...
:)
Sorry if I misunderstood you. I definitly agree with you that Ink needs to keep MSN as a search partner or it would not be worth paying for the inclusion into the rest of their partners. I also agree that they need to find other partners otherwise they are going to become more and more of an afterthought!
Ummm.
Off thread-hunting...
Am probably wrong anyway...
