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PHP Framework

Moving from Nomad to Framework

   
2:04 pm on Aug 11, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Our site was developed over 4 years ago using PHP without any framework; (as we coined in the office: The Nomad Approach). We are scheduled for an entire site overhaul and we're considering several PHP frameworks such as: Kohana, Yii, CakePHP, Zend, Symfony, CodeIgniter.

Feedback from WebmasterWorld members on their experiences using the above mentioned frameworks would be greatly appreciated.
10:40 pm on Aug 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Guess nobody around here uses the mentioned frameworks!
10:47 am on Aug 23, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Development starts next weeek!
No one can comment?
11:50 am on Aug 23, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I'd suggest care:
Any framework you chose is going to have long term consequences. Your developers will have to have experience in whatever you chose.

Since your development starts next week I guess you already know what they have experience with: use that one. If none: use none.

Also Google around a bit, you'll find comparisons. I liked this one: [slideshare.net...] - get through it to the end and notice they're all slower than native "nomad" php... In world where we're rated on speed on our servers by GOOG and the like, no wonder few have experience...
1:44 pm on Aug 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Side note, but did you notice the slide on performance that included Drupal and Wordpress? That wasn't an eyeopener for me, I knew how terrible they are, but now I have a nice picture I can show to people :P
2:10 pm on Aug 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

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The slide from [xkcd.com...] ( which I had not seen before ) has the tears of laughter, rolling from my eyes as I type..:))..Thank you swa66 ..:)


Yes that comparative chart is an "eyeopener" as to just how slow Drupal and WP are, compared with pure html or pure php !
2:45 pm on Aug 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I like CodeIgnitor. We just used it to integrate with an API and it was enjoyable to use.

I have used Zend but not to the same extent and that was a while ago, but I know lots of people like it.
8:51 am on Dec 15, 2012 (gmt 0)



I am using CodeIgniter because itís relatively easy to learn, delivers lightning fast page loads, has tonnes of advanced features and has a very large and active community.
9:24 am on Dec 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Have to second CodeIgniter. It changed my life as far as coding is concerned. Makes your code REALLY easy to manage and you can be as strict or loose as you decide - choosing to use the full templating side of things (kind of like Cake) or ignoring the template stuff and just using more OOP coding principles. Highly recommended.

I started to use this after downloading and trying out any of the other frameworks out there including Cake etc. They were mostly good, but (for me anyhow) CodeIgniter out-trumped the lot. Whether your a brilliant coder, beginning or somewhere in between you can get your teeth into CI and there is a strong community backing it up.

hope that helps,

cheers,

Wittner