AV Finally Rolls Out Pay for Inclusion Plan

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[seth_wilde]

"Keep your page content up to date with automatic weekly refreshes of your pages."

Unit Price (USD)
1st URL $39.00
URLs #2-10 $24.00 each
URLs #11-100 $19.00 each
URLs #101-500 $12.00 each

[infospider.com...]

[Jill]

For some reason I am getting no returns on whois.net but in netsol I'm getting the same person for admin on all. I don't know much about this stuff so his name is not ringing a bell except for the fact that one of the emails they have listed for him is at World Submit. The plurals come up under a different company name but same basic information. Is this significant?

[Mike_Mackin]

AV & WorldSubmit
yup
This is just like the INK & PT

[ihelpyou]

Look at the name servers.

[whois.net...]

[whois.net...]

[whois.net...]

Then look at the street address. Exactly the same.

[startup]

Let's remember that AV is not selling the algo for $39.00 for 6 months. Continue to do what you know works.

[ihelpyou]

Infospider is ProBoost. Proboost is Infospider.

ProBoost is an SEO. Always have been.

Maybe they will stop being an SEO? Does anyone know?

PT is not an SEO. They are not in direct competition.

[NFFC]

>PT is not an SEO. They are not in direct competition.

In my opinion that is wrong, just take a look at their sites.

[ihelpyou]

Well, PT claims they are not an SEO, but Proboost is.

I talked to a prospective client just the other day and he said he was looking at ProBoost also.

[ihelpyou]

I had a nice chat with Infospider/ProBoost. They addressed my concerns and re-assured me about things.

I still think the price is pretty steep though.

[Slan]

Hi,

The infospider's create account form do not seem to work (at 9:45 EST)

When I click ' create account ' I get an error.

Anyone can confirm ?!

[angiolo]

Will Altavista adopt the same Inktomi procedure?

Only paid URL listed and all other pages ignored?

What will happen whit pages that are still ranking fine if they should not apply for presence?

[tigger]

Has anyone heard whether country specific domains will be filtered so that a UK AV search returns .co.uk results ?

I've sent e-mails to infospider with no response if this is a sign of their service I will be very wary about parting with any money

[Napoleon]

All questions and no answers... and another one is: what happens at the end of 6 months if you don't re-subscribe? Is the site removed or left in the index with the rest? Is there a penalty or is the site just not respidered?

I think AV need an FAQ.

[JD]

I paid their fee on 6-26-01, Scooter came on the 27th and 28th twice a day. Checked the status this morning and nothing. Just checked again and here it is. My index is the only page in and it’s buried

URL [dreamgold.com...]
Status Successfully indexed
Date Crawled 06/29/2001
Refresh Rate Weekly

My server was just change and I don't have complete logs to see if scooter went any further than the url I submitted.

[angiolo]

Hi JD

I don't know your targeted keywords, but I got two keywords from your title and I tried searching for "jewelery gold", but it is quite impossible to find your site; you are not in the related pages too!

It doesn't seem a big bargain the paid submission.

[tigger]

Hi JD

Although the AV paid scheme does offer re-spidering guaranteed, it doesn’t offer any guarantees on the rankings the same as inktomi, the advantage you now have is the opportunity to change your page around to make it more attractive to AV.

[oLeon]

If I remember correctly, has AV two DBs: the first one for the submitted/spidered pages, the second one can named "main-DB". out of this one AV gets its best results. so that´s why av likes older pages.

Okay, if I pay for the submit and get a respidering every week - I should be careful with changeing my pages, because if the page occur within the main-db a changing can lead to a burial, right? if I don´t get a guaranty to appear within the main-db immediately why should I pay for submitting? why should I pay when the page I paid for first appears after month within the good rankings?
INK doesn´t work like that so it´s worth to pay - but AV? I guess not.

[tigger]

It's a shame AV didn't look at the market place they were competing up against as I think the Ink deal knocks spots off AV

[JD]

Angiolo: jewelery with that spelling is not one of my keyword but you are right I am nowhere to be found for my main KWs. I do come up #1 if I search for my name Jeffrey Dunnington which would be an unlikely search. A search for dream gold comes up #75. This is better than before I submitted, I was not there.

It is a place to start I know now I am in the DB and as tigger says "the advantage you now have is the opportunity to change your page around to make it more attractive to AV" I have already changed the page to see if indeed it will refresh weekly.

[startup]

JD,
AV ranks sites not pages. If their PFP does not include full site crawling, I believe they are deceiving alot of people.

[lawman]

Out of over 4000 referrals this month, I could trace 21 to AV. I think I'll keep my money in my pocket.

Lawman

[markd]

One of the problems I have faced this year is in 're-educating' clients that AV is a becoming a spent force.

Unfortunately, AV still seems to be one of the SE's that my (mainly UK-based) clients know and expect to be seen in. This makes the 'pay' scheme a bitter pill to dispense to client - particularly with such unclear guidelines as to how/if pages will not be filered (see my earlier rant!).

As stated earlier, I believe that those that rush in to PFP without thinking through a valauable proposition for us and our clients will loose goodwill and business in the longer term.

I am now comfortable with using Ink's scheme because it seems to show results quickly and offers flexibility for tweaks etc. - although AOL has been a blow.

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued in Part two [webmasterworld.com]