Does AV ban domains, IP's, or both?

[mrsubmit]

Hi all,

If a domain is banned by AV will switching to a new IP circumvent the ban? Or is it the domain itself that's banned? Or both?

Thanks. I haven't had a domain banned yet but if it should happen I want to have a Plan B. ;)

P.S. I still can't believe how many high-ranking pages I see across many categories in AV that are pure spam! [keyword keyword keyword ad infinitum, often still using the old invisible text tricks.]

[Machiavelli]

I think that it is by IP and not domain, but I'm not sure whether the domains that have been on a bad IP will always be tarnished.

[sugarkane]

I'm almost certain it's by domain - I had a site banned, pointed another domain to it and it got back in (no change in IP, and there're several other sites on the same IP that do well)

[NFFC]

What sugarkane said, except I see a penalty on domains that share a banned IP.

Maybe there are levels of "badness", domain banned first, IP penalised second, IP banned third and finally the whole "C" class?

[Machiavelli]

'...and finally the whole "C" class'

...and it seems that their trick here is to issue a warning "we cannot connect to your server" whenever you try to submit anything. Extremely frustrating for everyone in the C class.

[mrsubmit]

Thanks for all the comments. :)

I wonder how sites are ranked on the "levels of badness" (LOL NFFC!), that is, what gets just the lesser penalties vs. getting IP and domain banned, etc., assuming that's how this works?

Hmmm, maybe I should try an experiment. Perhaps I can actually place as high as the spammers for once. ;)

[Garyh]

I believe if they banned the IP address, I would be in an excellent position to sue successfully as the Web Hosting party, if I can find an attorney here in Florida that is!

[minnapple]

I am always worried about hosting a new client on a recycled IP address that could have been banded due to some abuse.
Is there any way to find out who the past owner of a IP is and if they had been banded?

[Garyh]

Perhaps!! By going to the "owner" of the class A block. Maybe they have records, but then again privacy may be an issue. Try to use [arin.net...] and see who is at the top of the heap.

[Machiavelli]

Garyh - curious to know who you would sue - Altavista or the person who sold you your IP address?