Sharing IP with a banned site

[NFFC]

There seems little doubt that domains that share an IP with a banned site are penalised in the rankings at AV. The problem is you know when you're banned [you're just not there!] but how do you know you are being penalised?

If you have the "right" sort of domain try this:

Assuming your domain is not a common word, ideally something like www.eproductname.com or a company name, make a page on a new site that includes the name once in the body[without the www.&.com], in addition to some filler text. Then make a new page on the "penalised" site that is optimised for the domain name [without the www.&.com].
Submit.
If the new page outranks the existing site then...draw you're own conclusions.

Hope that makes sense!

[rogerd]

NFFC, is there evidence that AltaVista penalizes sites with some kind of "penalty flag"? I work with one site that was banned for doorways and then reinstated, but its rankings never recovered. Even under the company name/domain name, it ranks poorly. AV just did a massive spidering of the site, so I'm waiting for an update to see what happens. It sure feels like a penalty of some kind, though.

[NFFC]

>penalizes sites with some kind of "penalty flag"?

Well they definitely ban by domain name [in the first instance], never had one reinstated so can't tell you if they "wipe" the slate clean. This must be the most frustrating part, being penalised and kept in the dark. What happens if you take a new client on who has been previously banned? AV need to sort this situation out, it can only lead to bad feelings.

[mayor]

NFCC, you and I have both been around plenty long enough to know that AV could care less about our bad feelings. In fact, they'll probably rejoice if they see us slammed by a bad IP. Webmasters, especially those that are good at optimizing, are the enemy.