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To Pay or Not to Pay Inktomi (That is the Newbie Question)

         

Movie_House

2:47 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hi all,

I've been following the threads on Inktomi and I was going to pay the $39 joining fee. But I'm put off by the fact that all the "optomization tricks of the ruthless" can get high rankings. Is there actually any point in me paying to get my business listed on Inktomi (even though I'm dealing with a very specialised market) just to find I rank about 100 in search engine results? Do all the search engines that are powered by Ink, sort the results in the same way?

For instance, I just did a search in MSN for "Arriflex 16BL" which is a movie camera I sell. I came in at number 2 but this is for an obscure camera information page which currently resides on my web site. This same page appears on just about every search engine I've tried (except Teoma for some strange reason). So I assume I've been web crawled in the past. But these aren't the pages I want to get listed for. I'm making fresh submissions in the category of "Film-making equipment" or "movie cameras", as I don't appear on any of the search engines in this category.

So my question is, is it worth me paying $39 to Ink to get listed or am I better off making free submissions to other Search Engines that Ink will crawl (eventually)?

Finally, I baulk at the £299 fee to be listed in Yahoo. I'm a cottage industry and I just can't afford it. Is there any back door way of submitting to Yahoo. I provide a lot of free resource information pages on my site and I was thinking of submitting these in the free pages of Yahoo, but I was worried that they would consider them as nothing more than a business promotion (because I link to cameras for sale in the info pages) and would ignore them.

Thanks all in advance for any help you can give.

HuhuFruFru

3:54 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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my experience (i own a small business): never pay a cent for anything when you can have nice traffic for free. you can get in inktomi and the othe pay for inclusion SE's through odp (but it takes a while). yahoo is ridiculous - 299€ is just too much! i mean it is just one simple link, most categories in odp have a higher PR.

and most of the people use the best SE in the world: google - which is FREE, so why pay? google indexes all of your pages for free, but with inktomi/fast/altavista you must pay for every single page. and it doesn't give you any ranking boost!

Tony_Perry

4:33 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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movie_house

I say pay for it and just submit 1 well optimised page. Firstly, their results are similar to google, so you can quickly test how your page will perform there and make fine adjustments to get it perfect! Secondly, it will drive in some inquiries from MSN and even a few from Hotbot.

I wouldnt pay for incusion into Yahoo! right now as they pull their results from Google! This may change as Yahoo! has now bought inktomi, but that is another story!

4eyes

6:21 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It really depends on finding high traffic key phrases that are not Overture/Looksmart saturated already.

Difficult, but worth it if you succeed.

tennismaster

6:34 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I would say pay for one URL.

With the 48 hr refresh you can tweak your pages until
the page ranks well.
If you cannot get the page to rank well, then change
it to another page from your site and try that.

TM

skibum

2:19 am on Feb 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



If you have a good amount of movie (non-commercial) content on your site, go take the Zeal.com quiz, pass the basic editor test, and go pump some pages in there. They'll show up in the "web directory" result on MSN.

As long as the pages you submit are not pushing products and you haven't already paid LookSmart for a listing it could give you a decent traffic boost.

Welcome to the boards Movie_House! :)