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Paid Inktomi listings dropped

Anybody else???

         

DrCool

10:01 pm on Feb 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Has anybody else seen Inktomi drop listings lately? I had a domain I was working with that I submitted through Position Tech drop completly out of the index. The pages were listing very well and I made no changes to the pages. Has this happened to anyone else over the past few days?

stcrim

3:43 am on Feb 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Are you saying you had non-paid pages that were dropped after you added some paid pages? Though INK claims this isn't a problem - they recently killed a client's site in favor of the 2 pages we paid for.

Doesn't leave me with that "reach for my VISA CARD feeling".

-s-

nick

6:54 am on Feb 14, 2002 (gmt 0)



I have had the same thing ..100 paid pages all dropped out ( as good as) :-(

Terrier

9:13 am on Feb 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Me too, Paid for page, good listing, then Poof ! gone for main keyword not even in the serp for that word. I do not feel the traffic is worth worrying about, but I certainly will not reach for the plastic again with pt. a couple of the high listed competition are using poor-man style cloaking with redirects,
My pages are clean. Strange.

mog

9:36 am on Feb 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have also seen many paid listings go from the first page to position 500.

Has anyone got any ideas what is going on with ink?

adamxcl

7:49 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I had paid for some listings as well. They were in there for a little while, few months maybe. And then gone.... Haven't been anywhere to be found and I didn't resubmit.

I just got an email saying it's time to renew my listings at such and such a price. Wow, pay to renew something that I paid for and I'm not getting right now... hmmmm. Have to laugh.

Hissingsid

8:50 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My listing was dropped so I wrote to tina at positiontech.com who quickly identified what was causing the problem, the dns was not resolving. She contacted Ink on my behalf and the whole thing was sorted out very quickly.

The ease of contacting someone who was able to help was outstanding, especially when compared to AskJeeves and Google.

Sid

stcrim

9:29 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hissingsid

WElcome to WMW and the Ink forum - thanks for the input

-s-

nick

10:39 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)



..is everyone using Positiontech here?

DrCool

10:41 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have been using PositionTech. I have been very pleased with them overall. I wrote to them with my problem and they gave me the standard "the search engines can do whatever they want with the Inktomi data" answer.

nick

10:32 am on Feb 16, 2002 (gmt 0)



I got that reply too..
So, Ink has an algo and that decides where you are in the Ink database. Then msn ,aol etc draw from that..correct? So a sudden drop across the board , not from one particular SE ,would be down to ink , not the engines..?
Im pretty new to this so all comments and corrections welcomed!

GoInkGo

4:04 pm on Feb 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Me Too - 12 paid pages has been dropped for 3 weeks now. I had a TOP 10 for 8 months and now, no where to be found. If I search for the URL, they are in the engines but not for my keywords.

I contacted someone @ PT about this and no answers for 2 weeks now :(

test4echo

11:55 am on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)



I've had at least 100 pages dropped from Inktomi. For some domains, a Ink Pure Search on the domain.com will return all listings, but in AOL/MSN, maybe 1 or 2 returns on the domain.com search. Has anyone heard from PT or Ink on this?

makemetop

12:00 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)



Have a read of this. If you are reported, you are up against these new guidelines. [inktomi.com...]

Makes Google look positively lax :)

NFFC

12:22 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Good one MMT, you had me fooled all the way to here..

Q: I need to buy my way to the top of the rankings quickly. How do I do that?
A: None of Inktomi's paid inclusion products have anything to do with ranking. They simply provide inclusion; ranking occurs as it would if the pages were not paid.

...then I realised it was a spoof.

stcrim

1:29 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If Ink sticks to this:
[inktomi.com...]

There's only 3 pages on the internet that inktomi will index. Wonder if they will make it on $75 budget next year.

-s-

jeremy goodrich

3:12 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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too funny. Did they forget who they work with while they wrote that?

>>>> $75 dollar budget

I think that is giving them a little too much credit. Perhaps they will go all out and index all 10 pages that qualify :)

agerhart

2:30 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I hate to be the only one, but I have not had a problem with Inktomi yet.........that is, yet!

Terrier

8:21 pm on Feb 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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This is very strange, Ink is chock a block with spam pages.Google is squeeky clean in comparison.

Can someone tell me is the algo vastly different than google (like over a 100 positions)? I know which engine I prefer to do well in !

Maybe for ink the answer is to revert to the methods that seem to do well

makemetop

10:21 am on Feb 24, 2002 (gmt 0)



>then I realised it was a spoof...

Well, maybe it was! That page isn't there any more. It has been replaced with [inktomi.com...]

4eyes

9:29 pm on Feb 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Agerhart, you are not the only one - we have been doing great on Inktomi recently - with no drops:)

We manage over a hundred sites in Inktomi - all different customers, different products etc. All clean optmisations, well on the 'safe side' of SEO.

Almost every single one has jumped a few places recently.

We haven't changed the pages, so clearly there is a major drop out or a tweak to the algo or filters.

Not complaining though:)

makemetop

1:04 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)



>Google is squeeky clean in comparison.

You've got to be kidding - LOL!

littleman

5:37 pm on May 30, 2002 (gmt 0)



<required disclaimer>This is my opinion folks, not wmw's</required disclaimer>

Well, if Inktomi is banning folks it will be one move in a long series of burning the folks who keep them alive. The SEOs are what are powering inktomi's business model. If Inktomi bans sites that paid for inclusion then it is breaking a moral contract. This has been imktomi's historic pattern. It is no surprise.

inwaaaytoodeep

8:56 am on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well,

Did anyone have a look at Inktomi's Spam policy? Read it through and then learn to guard your trade secrets.

Make public what you know privately, with like-minded people.

Did you wonder why it all got harder>>??

;)

backus

9:16 am on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've never paid to get in Inktomi, and I never will!!! It get in just fine for free! Never fails!

backus

9:47 am on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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In fact, thanks to some of the paid listings going out, it seems to have lifted my already almost perfect results! Me happy!

WindSun

2:01 pm on Jun 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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With some of our competitors spam and cloaked pages gone, we now have 3 pages on the first page with the 2nd most common keywords search for our products.

Keynote_DJ

7:46 am on Jun 3, 2002 (gmt 0)



I'm so glad I found this thread. I'm not alone!!My web site was #1 for the query "charlotte disc jockeys" after submitting my site to Inktomi, but as soon as my monthly budget tolled at LookSmart, my listing completely vanished from Inktomi's results (not just LS' sponsored links but also Inktomi's main search results). This is absolutely outrageous. I paid a separate fee to Inktomi. I have submitted a complaint at <snip>, and I'll give you the link as soon as it's posted.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 9:19 am (utc) on June 3, 2002]

Brett_Tabke

9:20 am on Jun 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We are not the site for rallying the troops for such things.