Can you change the paid submit URLs...

...and still have the original URLs stay in Ink?

[feeder]

Can I change the "paid for" URL to a different URL (within the same site) and still have the original URL appear in the Ink database?

That way, I can have all my pages included for the price of one page.

Does this work?

[NFFC]

No.

Think about it in a different way though, you could still turn it to your advantadge.

[feeder]

Hmmm....no, brain not functioning well this morning %-(

Can you give me a clue?

[NFFC]

The opposite of what you wanted to do.

[Marcia]

So pay for page-a and it'll be listed. Change to page-b, then b will be listed and a will not. I'm not quite following what the opposite would be.

[feeder]

Dito %-(

[stcrim]

Ok Mark you got Marcia doing her ABC's - and, you got me hanging on the cliff here too, so what's the rest of the story.

-s-

[NFFC]

>So pay for page-a and it'll be listed. Change to page-b, then b will be listed and a will not

Substitute page for domain. Domain a isn't yours, domain b is.

[DaveN]

NFFC
How does you brain work ????? ;)

what if page-a is a paid for inclusion site already 8)

[click watcher]

>>>I'm not quite following what the opposite would be.

NFFC i'm not even at the "not quite" stage
infact maybe i'm still asleep, any more clues???

[bobriggs]

'Substitute page for domain. Domain a isn't yours, domain b is.'

Substite page with page-on-domain:

Page-on-domain-a isn't yours, page-on-domain-b is?

....then b will be listed and a will not.

I have a paid page thru PT. I cannot remember whether or not your email address needs to be on that page...Am I thinking of some other submission?

[Marcia]

feeder, when you pay for blue-widgets.htm it will be included. If you make a change to red-widgets.htm then red will be included, and blue will no longer be included.

When you pay for one, you get one, even if you change it. For a while at the beginning yes, they'd leave both, but they caught it and stopped.

[zero6]

I think I get what NFFC is saying. Submit url from your competitors. Then substitute with your own and watch your competitor disapear from the db.

Not a technique that I would condone... or would I?

z6

(edited by: zero6 at 2:24 pm (gmt) on Nov. 8, 2001)

[smatsmax]

Thats not very nice
He's not right is he NFFC?

[dwedeking]

oh wow. NFFC as the GodFather IV? COOL!! :)

[stcrim]

Trust me - this very public discussion will not escape the eyes of INKTOMI and I for one hope they act on this very quick, before too much damage is done to those who are naturally in the INK db.

INK left this door open and it's their responsibility to close it - now!!! And I bet you can bet that will involve no domain substitutions, period...

Although the fair route would be that paid / not paid would have no effect on a page naturally in the db.

What a mess
-s-

[NFFC]

>What a mess

Exactly, the whole thing is a joke, it's not that I would it's that I can.

>And I bet you can bet that will involve no domain substitutions

Still the same flaws just a little more pricey to exploit.

>before too much damage is done to those who are naturally in the INK db.

I fear it is too late for that stcrim, it is already damaged beyond repair, users are noticing and they will switch, when that happens....well lets just say if you pay don't base ROI on a 12 month period. All of course imho.

[lawman]

Wow! If you're a straight up player, this view of the internet can be unnerving. I guess SEO procedures can be like sausage; if you like it, you shouldn't watch it being made.

Lawman

[rogerd]

SEO is like anything else, lawman - there are ethical players, and unethical ones. You don't have to resort to sabotage to get traffic, and most SEOs don't.

[makemetop]

If you did this, the drop was only temporary provided the site you went for is in BOW. I've done this by mistake on my own home page (about 6 months ago) and disappeared 'til the next BOW update - about 5 weeks (I wanted to see if it would come back). Then I came back at my previous position. Still nasty - but I think Ink do have this covered to some extent for BOW sites.

I'm not going to test it again though!

[2_much]

"INK left this door open and it's their responsibility to close it - now!!! And I bet you can bet that will involve no domain substitutions, period... "

Guess they listened to you stscrim ;)