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We have a client who acquired a domain from another company. When I looked in Hotbot.co.uk to see if it is already listed up it comes.
My question is. If the site is setup for the Inktomi spider to work its merry way through, will it be spidered, or will it remain just the index page ?
I have heard that it will be just the index page and no more. Has anybody else been in this situation, with regards to inheriting a domain within the BOW, and did you manage to get it indexed in its entirtey without paying.
I am loathe to pay for extra pages if there is no need, and of course, if I did go the PFI it would be the end of my BOW inclusion if I choose to stop paying. Is this correct ?
Any advice gratefully received.
Cheers
Rusky
It's hard to tell, it used to be that if you got your pages in hotbot.co.uk, canada.com, or anzwers.co.au, that it would be spidered and all the pages would be referenced in the index. However from threads that i have been involved in and my own experiences, Inktomi, seem to have put a block on this, exactly when i am not sure, but i caught canada.com before it shutdown its addurl page, and only pages that are listed, are in LS.com partners are the ones listed in Ink and its partners, with subs to canada and anzwers not coming up, whether it is time, i doubt as it has been 5 months or so.
No, you will disappear temporarily from BOW if you use PFI for the page(s) already in Ink - but should return in the next BOW update after you stop paying (about once a month). If you put other pages from the same site in PFI which are not indexed, you will not suffer any penalty (in my experience to date).
I was under the impression that you could reference hotbot.co.uk as it was purely ink results. When I look for the URL in Looksmart it gives me 1 result saying "powered by inktomi".
It is a new site with an old domain, so I know nothing has been submitted for this new site as yet.
The thing is that I was going to go the PT route with this site, that was until I found that the index page is already indexed by Inktomi.
So now I do not know which path to follow.
The client will be expecting results pdq, and I do not hink that I will have the luxury of time to wait to see if the rest of the site will be included in the BOW database in time.
But I don't want to splash the cash for no good reason !!!!
yours confused
Rusky
I was in between posts there...
So, if I create pages linked from the page that is already in the index, will these stand a chance of being added to the BOW simply by association? As at the moment there is just a holding page within Inktomi, so I cannot see if it would follow links as there are none to follow as yet!
It does seem that ink (BOW) is only interested in the index page as I’ve just checked a few clients that are in “good old fashion way” but nothing past the index page
So it would appear that you have to go both routes....
Sorry to sound vague, if you want to guarantee getting a site in pay for it, if you have a site that's already in (BOW) and it's the index page work on getting your main keywords into the title & description, but don't rely on ink following the links from your index.
I have a much better grasp of it now, thanks everyone, unfortunately I know I will not be able to get all of the keyphrases from the index alone, so I wil have to get the old card out :(
But it won't harm the page that is already in the BOW index which was what I was trying to find out :)
I am getting respectable results by making optimized pay-to-index pages that include multiple low-competition keyword phrases.
Pages optimized for high-competition keywords will probably be hopelessly buried below directory pages (MSN) and pages paid for through other higher-ranking means.
2) I have a page in inktomi that's been there a while but it is on page 3. Has anyone tested to see if paying for the same page already indexed can improve ranking? I may make the experiment and report back. The reason I think this might be a possibility is because I paid for a page last week that was a similar design and keyword popularity and I see it on page 1.
2) If I start to pay for a domain which I already have several pages indexed for free, does this mean that there's no way I would be able to ever get a page indexed for free again from that domain
through spidering? (I realize that it's even up in the air if Ink has added ANY free pages at all in a while!). Since I have gotten pages in for free previously from that domain, I hate the thought of ruining that opportunity by starting to pay for new pages on that domain, yet it's unclear if this is just a temporary suspension of the free indexing.
Thanks.
First: - If it was me I wouldn't pay for the page, as I'm amazed how many people troll through the listings to find information and I've got some obscure search results with Ink that's showing on pages 5 or more that get traffic :) so if you want to get that search phrase higher then produce another page and name it show you can track the traffic from it
Second: - If you submit a paid page it should not effect your free listing as I have some sites that have both, although the sites that are in BOW have not had any new pages indexed for sometime.
Thanks. But what is "BOW"?
Also, won't INK recognize if a domain begins to be paid for and not continue to spider NEW unpaid pages that I stick on pages already in the FREE index? Were you saying it won't affect Free pages already in or NEW free pages I hope to get in?
Jilla
BOW [webmasterworld.com...]
A paid Ink page is a completely stand alone listing(IMHO), so won't effect your free listing, as for new free listings getting in I wouldn't hold your breath on much getting in other than the index page, but as most things to be with SE's it's just a good guess
