gigadoc etc and link pop

i think this is important

[mr_dredd2]

I did post this somewhere else in a thread and didn't see any response, but i think this issue is very important for inktomi seo strategy.

The "inktomi web map". Does the information existing in this section contribute to link pop? I'm a bit confused about this, because it seems that if you search for your links on, say, hotbot, it's only going to report links existing in "best of the web" and "gigadoc". So does the "web map" consist of a whole heap of hidden link information?

For example, 10 of my links may exist in "web map" - those sites may have been spidered by slurp. But they might not be in "best of the web" or "gigadoc" - do these links still count?

I think figuring this out is very important, because what if you work for 10 good links, but find none of these link pages are in bestoftheweb or gigadoc? wasted time?

What does anyone think?

[stcrim]

mr_dredd2

If the question is - will link pop help with your ink ranking, my experience says no. My PTP pages are like little islands only linking to each other...

But, links may come into play someday - so you can't go wrong by working it.

-s-

[Robert Charlton]

A year and a half ago (seems like centuries), before PTP, reliable sources ;) at Inktomi claimed they not only factored in link pop, but also the context of text surrounding the link. I can't imagine, though, they were applying it as strongly then as Google is now, because Ink links never seemed like they had that much to do with rankings (I remember, though, checking out some competitive rankings on AltaVista at about that time, and it was very clear that to me that, on AV, top positions on some searches got there because of links, not on-site optimization).

And yes, at that time on Inktomi, links pointing to you that were in the web map but not in the best of the web, or whatever they called it then, would contribute to link pop... this explicitly came up in conversation. So checking a link with the link: command might show less than you actually had.

Also, at that time, Ink required at least one link from an external domain linking to a page to keep that page in the best of web for longer than 30 days. They might keep it in anyway, but this is what assured its staying in.

I have no idea what the current setup is, but this is what it was prior to PTP.

[NFFC]

>Does the information existing in this section contribute to link pop? ...consist of a whole heap of hidden link information?

Yes.
It shouldn't make any difference to your strategy though, always assume they know more about your domain than you think they do. I call it "working the web map".

>one link from an external domain linking to a page to keep that page in the best of web

I think that applies more to pages in Gigadoc minus the BOW, not sure what they call it, shall we call it Best of the Dross [BOD]? Once you get in BOW you tend to stay there and over time get more and more pages spidered and added.

[stcrim]

>>>but this is what it was prior to PTP

Yes, prior - but now ink want's it to be simple so people will continue to pay. How many people will continue to pay for pages that rank poorly.

My ptp pages are only linked to each other and they all rank in the top 3 slots.

-s-

[Robert Charlton]

>>I think that applies more to pages in Gigadoc minus the BOW, not sure what they call it, shall we call it Best of the Dross [BOD]? Once you get in BOW you tend to stay there...<<

Yes... correction to all I said above.... What I meant was that you needed a link to stay in the pages that could be reported in a search, whatever they called them then.